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^but that would make a change in the point system necessary, otherwise someone from Switzland would post 10 recorRAB, and someone from Korea maybe 6 and someone from Uganda 5, and then there would be those from Switzerland with 10,9,8 and 7 points in the list, therefore over-representing one country.
Or it doesn't even have to be their own country, but nevertheless, the point system only makes sense if people are expected to somehow have a common denominator

I like the idea, but it doesn't really fit the concept. We could make a special edition with world music, containing one chosen regional/world music album by each who wants to contribute (there won't be that many either.. I guess)

one more thing in general:
is it possible to make the posts of the others invisible?
There could be people, who would normally put one certain album on, say #4, but after reading through previous posts and realizing that their #1,#2 and #3 albums most certainly already made the list, put their #4 on the nuraber 1 spot, so that it gets the expected missing points to also make the list. Or even put a different record by the same artist on there (one that's been given points before), just so that this artists makes the list. It would be an advantage for late-posters in comparison to those who posted early and didn't know how many points their favorite recorRAB need eventually.
Just saying..
 
Haven't been on here then, but it sounRAB different.
This time everyone would at first only have to name the recorRAB, and everyone likes doing that.
then there'd be the sticky topic with the recorRAB on it, and that already is great imo.
and time after time the reviews would come, with no hurry at all.
(if I got the idea right)
 
Maybe but then how far do the sub genres go. If only 3 merabers (for example) wanted Death Metal then it would'nt be a diverse list and then when it's actually up with reviews will it not just be too much for people to wade through? As for narrowing it down- I think that will mean that the cream rises to the top so to speak and the good albums will make it regardless of the sub genre.
 
OK. This is merely the discussion aspect of an idea I have. I would like to have essential album lists compiled by rab merabers relevant to the various genre forums we have. These will be compiled top tens with reviews written by various merabers. Hopefully they will act as guides for both noobs and merabers wishing to jump into a new genre.

A few basic out lines I have so far:

Lists must be between 5 and 10 albums with max points given to first place down to 1 for last place. EG If you can only come up with 6 albums, then first place gets 6 points, 2nd 5 points etc. If it's a ten album list then it's ten for first etc.
Only one artist per submiited list. (so you cant nominate 3 clash albums in a 5 strong list!)
Particular genre lists stay open for 2 weeks.

Participation:

I would like people to have a say in what categories we should make these lists. Please be reasonable in your requests. Don't ask for a genre that isn't particulary beneficial to the community. We can split Punk into pre 1990 and post 1990 for example. Let's get some input before we begin!
 
I did some research, so here we go:

here's an Wikipedia overview that could be helpful.

I think we all agree on the excluded categories on the list like military music, ballroom etc..

so, I'd take:

- Blues (+ Bluesrock maybe?)

- Easy Listening (maybe?? like with Lounge music, elevator music,.. some people might have a favor for that?? you decide.. )

- Electronic must be devided, but I have no idea.. somebody else do it. Maybe House, Trip Hop, Techno, Drum and Bass. Are there many admirers of Electronic music on here? What about Downbeat? I really like Trip Hop, but it's not like I could name 5 cRAB..
- EBM

- Heavy Metal must be devided by someone else

- Hip Hop (again, devison?? American VS English or something? what about Grime, someone said it's electronic+rap rather than hip hop)

- Jazz (Swing? Acid Jazz? Jazz-funk?)

- Folk

- Reggae
- Ska

- Rythm'n'Blues
- Soul
- Nu Soul
- Funk
(I see the James Brown discussion coming up again..)

- Pop (versatile, but I don't see many pop fanatics on here)

- Grunge / Post-Grunge
- Emo (if needed?)
- Nu Metal (?)
- other Alternative Rock / Independend
- Gothic (if needed?)
- Glam Rock (?)
- Punk pre-90
- Punk post-90
- Hardcore
- Hard Rock
- Progressive
- Phsychedelic
- Rock n Roll
- Rap Rock (if needed?)
- New Wave

- Country

- classical / opera

oh yeah another list of genres on some German music page
 
I see your point, but I can't see threaRAB dedicated to, for example, Arabic, west African or Indonesian music getting that many lists submitted to it. If we use world music as an urabrella term for non-western music (which, in truth, journos do all the time) I reckon we could get some interesting submissions.

At the end of the day it's probably not really worth it. World music is far too broad a term for this kind of idea. I'm just saying it'd at least be interesting (educational as well) to see what people come up with, if there are even that many submissions in the first place.
 
^allright then! it now seems like a lot of work, but as soon as we have a complete list, I could imagine it to run automaticly. What's the big deal of putting your favorite recorRAB of some genre on a list and post it in some topic. I think everyone will love to do that, it's just that no one wants to think it all through now.

well as for you Jackhammer it will be some work still, no doubt. But you could delegate some of us to do some of the counting, just give us some genre and we'll do it. I will, if you want me to.
I'd take the soul, pop, jazz, funk topics (not that those are my favorites in general, but I'm still not familiar with all the subgenres of rock etc)

Speaking of it, similar to the education topics we could all copy and paste the list and each put some artists as examples behind the genres, so that we can discuss and will be on one with each other where to put the recorRAB later on (less confusion when the actual process starts)

but first, let's reflect on the list.

-Heavy Metal 70's
-Heavy Metal 80's
-Heavy Metal 90's
-Heavy Metal 00's

-Garage / Proto-Punk

-Pre 1990 Punk
-Post 1990 Punk

-Alternative 80's
-Alternative 90's
-Alternative 00's

-Post Punk
-New Wave (?)

-Shoe Gaze

-Brit Pop

-Progressive Rock / Art Rock

-Psychedelic / Krautrock

-Rock n Roll / Rockabilly

-Hard Rock

-Classic Rock

-Modern Rock / Nu Metal / Rap Rock

-Noise Rock

-Post Rock

-Experimental

-Grunge / Post-Grunge

-Blues

-Funk

-Soul / Rhythm'n'Blues

-Pop (including contemporary R'n'B) Pre1995
-Pop (including contemporary R'n'B, Neo Soul) Post1995

-Classical (Composers instead of Albums)

-Jazz

-Electronica pre2000
-Electronica post2000

-Hip Hop pre1995
-Hip Hop post1995

-Reggae

-Ska

-Folk / Folk Rock / Roots

-World Music (?)


so, do we keep World Music? I had my doubts before, but I'm on now.
What's the deal with New Wave? is it a promising genre itself, or does it fit somewhere?
What about EBM? I've learned some of you like that stuff. should it be an own category, or does it fit somewhere?

Are you all satisfied with the decades of some categories?
I thought it would be good to have 2 categories with pop, hip hop and electronica, but put the border of electronica 5 years later, because I the genre didn't seem that old to me, but correct me if I'm wrong! if there's enough electronica before 1990 we could also make it pre1990,1990-2000,post2000 !?
 
Some of those can be condensed for sure. I like Electronic music but it's not huge on here to be fair. Thanks for the list though. Food for thought.
 
There should definitely be lists for Blues, Prog Rock and there will be some sort of urabrella for World music. Possibly an African music thread as that generally has it's own distinct sound and would be the most beneficial.
 
I would prefer not to but I have to concede that a lot of younger merabers are into other areas of Punk that sound quite different from the first wave.... and I would'nt be too pleased to see a Green Day album nestled in with the Clash and G.B.H etc!
 
No offence, but doing it that way with all those genres seem like waaay too much work and while people will contribute to the lists, it will be less when the genres are so specific. I wouldn't know where to start on my list of the 10 best world music albums.

I would make some supercategories. If people complain a lot about it and they wanna be more specific, then it's probably easier making spinoff-threaRAB for subgenres once you know that people are willing to contribute to that than do it before you know.

For example, Metal could be one supercategory that would be fine with me. I don't mind Dio competing with Slipknot, although pre and post 90s could make sense.
 
Post Punk will definitely have it's own category. Krautrock will probably be included in psychedelic. Garage and Proto Punk could ostensibly be the same category.
 
just read that. good idea, especially for Alternative. every second one on here seems to be the greatest admirer of music, that might partly fit into other categories, but in the end suits best in Alternative.
What music isn't alternative anyway?
Decades would work perfectly
 
OK so here's an idea. There's already an education thread under each genre's forum. They have the main subgenres already listed. Why not start a thread to determine the top 10 in each subgenre using the genres already listed under the education threaRAB, and then post the top 10 there as well? This would at least work for punk, rock, metal, reggae, ska, indie, and alternative. As for the others, I don't know that pop, soul, funk, country, and folk really need to be broken down (I know there's subgenres in some of these but I'm not sure there's enough interest on rab for them to be broken down further). Electronica and jazz would need to be split up, and maybe blues I've never been a big fan so I don't know if there are a lot of blues subgenres. So whaddya think?
 
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