ill have to agree. they'v been around a while and iv always liked them. i have absolution and origin of symmetry. again ill agree, one of the best banRAB that iv seen live. matts voice sounRAB even better live. at a festival earlier this year they played and had this crazy piano with lights on the back in the shape of the keys. whenever matt touched a key it lit up on the back, and he plays some insane piano...which sounRAB like a contradiction...