I find somewhat exaggerated attention on your part to my modest posts. So, in order to make you happy, i propose you a one- to one- contest. Wanna try?
You´ve dedicated a long, hot and inoherent comment to my post that the IV Geneva´s Convention is not applicable to Israel becasue the Article 6 of this Convention states clearly:
In the territory of Parties to the conflict, the application of the present
Convention shall cease on the general close of military operations.
In the case of occupied territory, the application of the present Convention
shall cease one year after the general close of military operations; however,
the Occupying Power shall be bound, for the duration of the occupation, to the
extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory,
by the provisions of the following Articles of the present Convention: 1-12,
27, 29 to 34, 47, 49, 51, 52, 53, 59, 61 to 77, 143. .
Now, let´s see your arguments
Your quote: “Hate to upset you roan, but since the military IS STILL THERE, military operations have not ceased. Military operations cease when the occupying power LEAVES”.
Really? And I thought the military operations cease when the belligerent parties sign an Armsice or a peace treaty. But now you´ve opened my eyes and I understood that German was in a state of war with Russia until 1991, when Russian troops left Germany. Now I also understand that Mexico is still at a state of war with America, as the American troops stand in Texas. Go on, muchardav, don´t be shy, show us more of your profound knowledge of the International Law.
Quote: “MOST important, the UN Security Council and International Court says it does”.
Aha, so now we have already stopped talking about the Geneva´s Convention per se, and instead started to talk about how the UN and the Security Council interpret it?
Quote: “If the Security Council does not have that power then the UN had no power to either partition Palestine or recognize Israel”
Yes, we already know that your approach to the International Law depends on if it´s in your favour at this moment and in this situation - or not. When in 1948 the UN accepted the Resolution number 181, all the arab countries refused to accept it and attacked Israel. When the UN in 1967 accepted the resolution number 242, again you arabs refused to accept it and had the arrogance to say that you will interpret it as you consider “necessary”. And now, when Israel put you nose in the mud time and again, you suddenly became the UN´s fans and started to call Israel to get back to the UN resolutions which YOU violated. By the way, the resolutions 181 and 242 are the BASIC resolutions by the UN on the conflict between us. Do you agree to follow them now? NO, because one of the clauses of these resolutions is the “mutual recognition”. It means you will have to recognize Israel, which you categorically refuse to do. And without fulfilling these basic resolutions, all the other resolutions are just a wet paper, no matter how many more thousands of them you will make the UN accept.
The UN had the power to partition Palestine, unfortunately. Without this partition, we would by 1949 simply throw you arabs out of our land – and now would live happily. Thanks the UN daily in your prayers, muchardav. Without the UN, you in 1948 would not stand two months against us.
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Quote: “And Jordan relinquished all claims to the PLO in 1988”.
•Oh most stupid among all the muchardavs, rhe Article 6 of the IV Geneva Convention counts the time not from the signing of the Peace treaty, but from the cease of hostilities. The hostilities between Israel and Jordan ended in 1967. The peace treaty of 1988 was just the final accord. And, you want it or not, but it was signed, and Jordan publicly announced that it denounces of any claims on Judea and Samaria.
Quote: “BUT here's the funny (and this is EXTREMELY FUNNY) part roan quotes "however,
the Occupying Power shall be bound, for the duration of the occupation, to the extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory, by the provisions of the following Articles of the present Convention: 1-12,
27, 29 to 34, 47, 49, 51, 52, 53, 59, 61 to 77, 143. . Do you NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? “
Of course I do, unlike you. Israel strictly followed each and every one of them. If it did not, there would be no arabs now in Israel. But if you don´t agree, expose to us your point of view and tell, with facts in hands, what were these terrible violations of all these articles you refer to? Please, don´t forget to point out that Israel has not imposed any forced transfer of the population in 1967 and also don´t forget to mention that Israel totally and completely withdrew from Gaza and has not any responsibility for anything that can happen to the “poor lying Gazans” .
After doing this, try to prove that the IV Geneva Convention applies to Israel. But- TO PROVE, not to just scream
You´ve dedicated a long, hot and inoherent comment to my post that the IV Geneva´s Convention is not applicable to Israel becasue the Article 6 of this Convention states clearly:
In the territory of Parties to the conflict, the application of the present
Convention shall cease on the general close of military operations.
In the case of occupied territory, the application of the present Convention
shall cease one year after the general close of military operations; however,
the Occupying Power shall be bound, for the duration of the occupation, to the
extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory,
by the provisions of the following Articles of the present Convention: 1-12,
27, 29 to 34, 47, 49, 51, 52, 53, 59, 61 to 77, 143. .
Now, let´s see your arguments
Your quote: “Hate to upset you roan, but since the military IS STILL THERE, military operations have not ceased. Military operations cease when the occupying power LEAVES”.
Really? And I thought the military operations cease when the belligerent parties sign an Armsice or a peace treaty. But now you´ve opened my eyes and I understood that German was in a state of war with Russia until 1991, when Russian troops left Germany. Now I also understand that Mexico is still at a state of war with America, as the American troops stand in Texas. Go on, muchardav, don´t be shy, show us more of your profound knowledge of the International Law.
Quote: “MOST important, the UN Security Council and International Court says it does”.
Aha, so now we have already stopped talking about the Geneva´s Convention per se, and instead started to talk about how the UN and the Security Council interpret it?
Quote: “If the Security Council does not have that power then the UN had no power to either partition Palestine or recognize Israel”
Yes, we already know that your approach to the International Law depends on if it´s in your favour at this moment and in this situation - or not. When in 1948 the UN accepted the Resolution number 181, all the arab countries refused to accept it and attacked Israel. When the UN in 1967 accepted the resolution number 242, again you arabs refused to accept it and had the arrogance to say that you will interpret it as you consider “necessary”. And now, when Israel put you nose in the mud time and again, you suddenly became the UN´s fans and started to call Israel to get back to the UN resolutions which YOU violated. By the way, the resolutions 181 and 242 are the BASIC resolutions by the UN on the conflict between us. Do you agree to follow them now? NO, because one of the clauses of these resolutions is the “mutual recognition”. It means you will have to recognize Israel, which you categorically refuse to do. And without fulfilling these basic resolutions, all the other resolutions are just a wet paper, no matter how many more thousands of them you will make the UN accept.
The UN had the power to partition Palestine, unfortunately. Without this partition, we would by 1949 simply throw you arabs out of our land – and now would live happily. Thanks the UN daily in your prayers, muchardav. Without the UN, you in 1948 would not stand two months against us.
.
Quote: “And Jordan relinquished all claims to the PLO in 1988”.
•Oh most stupid among all the muchardavs, rhe Article 6 of the IV Geneva Convention counts the time not from the signing of the Peace treaty, but from the cease of hostilities. The hostilities between Israel and Jordan ended in 1967. The peace treaty of 1988 was just the final accord. And, you want it or not, but it was signed, and Jordan publicly announced that it denounces of any claims on Judea and Samaria.
Quote: “BUT here's the funny (and this is EXTREMELY FUNNY) part roan quotes "however,
the Occupying Power shall be bound, for the duration of the occupation, to the extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory, by the provisions of the following Articles of the present Convention: 1-12,
27, 29 to 34, 47, 49, 51, 52, 53, 59, 61 to 77, 143. . Do you NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? “
Of course I do, unlike you. Israel strictly followed each and every one of them. If it did not, there would be no arabs now in Israel. But if you don´t agree, expose to us your point of view and tell, with facts in hands, what were these terrible violations of all these articles you refer to? Please, don´t forget to point out that Israel has not imposed any forced transfer of the population in 1967 and also don´t forget to mention that Israel totally and completely withdrew from Gaza and has not any responsibility for anything that can happen to the “poor lying Gazans” .
After doing this, try to prove that the IV Geneva Convention applies to Israel. But- TO PROVE, not to just scream