Mr. Slate/Mr. Spacely/Mr. Burns

Rhianna P

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Who is the best and sometimes tyrantic boss in the cartoon world? Mr. Slate (The Flintstones), Mr. Spacely (The Jetsons), or Mr. Burns (The Simpsons)?
 
Spacely's the only one of the three who has real competition. There's no other quarry in Bedrock, so no competition there for Slate. As for Burns, his only competition is the sun, but that doesn't count since he can't do anything about it, and when he tried to block it out, the people of Springfield tore it down and crushed Shelbyville in the process.
 
"Tyrantic" isn't a word, but out of those 3, put me down for Mr. Burns as well. The man tried to block out the freakin' sun!

And let's not forget that not tyrannical moguls are men. Mom from Futurama, anyone?
 
Awesome, that made my day remembering that. He was onto something though, since the dawn of time man has tried to destroy the Sun. I vote Burns, Spacely was a tool and I don't recall Slate trying to destroy the Sun.
 
I think the topic is for most evil/tyrannical.

I have to go with Mr. Burns, as well. I mean, blocking out the sun, cutting off power from Springfiled on various occassions, dealing with the devil himself (It's even hinted at that Burns IS the devil).

Spacely and Slate are both overbearing and slavedrivers, but they've never gone so far as to make people OUTSIDE of their companies miserable.
 
Not that Mr. Burns' atrocities are to be knocked, but Dan Halen (Squidbillies) is just so much worse. I mean, putting baby-killing devices on the market, and then suing the families of the dead babies? Killing a man and using his flesh for tacos, meant for human consumption? That makes blotting out the sun seem trivial.
 
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IMO, Phil Ken Sebben meets that category. I believe that he is the best boss in animation and he is indeed sometimes tyrannical.
 
Mr. Burns easily... as much as I hate Spacely, at least he didn't try to block the sun/do other Burns-style horrificness (BURNS: "...we both made weapons for the Nazis, but mine *worked*, dammit!").

Mr. Slate never struck me as tyrannical or mean-spirited as a main personality trait---he just acted stern whenever Fred did something obnoxious or stupid to deserve it. (I can't imagine Spacely or Burns being invited directly to their employees' birthday parties the way Slate was to Fred's in one episode----there's Lisa's wedding set in the future, but it was an invitation to Smithers, not Burns :-p ) The meanest I can recall him acting toward Fred was in the coffee break scene in "Jetsons Meet the Flintstones" ... though the film showed him angry over his company failing (to some rival competitor made up for the film)...
 
When did Spacely become a bad guy? In the `80s?! I haven't seen the `80s cartoon in a while, so I don't remember, but in the original `60s version he wasn't really a villain. He just got angry at Jetson a lot.
 
Spacely reminds me of Mr. Dithers, Dagwood Bumstead's boss. He's fired and rehired George much more often, though (assuming Dithers ever fired Dagwood even one time).

Burns is more of an Orwellian tyrant-boss, since he seems to be the only real corporate baron in Springfield. Shoot, he can't even remember Homer's name 80% of the time! IMPO, he a LOSER!!

Slate? Took them a while to develop the definitive appearance (recall that there has been more than one Mr. Slate on Flintstones), but he is nowhere near the others in terms of tyranny.

Therefore, it's Burns, just barely.
 
In certain aspects, The Jetsons is sort of inspired from the Blondie comics like The Flintstones was an offshoot of The Honeymooners. Ironically, Penny Singleton, who voiced Jane Jetson, actually played the role of Blondie in a series of Blondie movies that were made from the 1940's to the 1950's.



Actually, Spacely was seen at Judy's surprise birthday party even though it was only a cameo appearance. And Burns was seen at the Simpson home a number of times. Among them was when they invited him to dinner (which was more of a setup) when he was running for governor and Marge served him the 3-eyed fish, which he spit out, ruining his chances of winning. There's also the episode where he was at the house for a number of days when he had Marge paint a portrait of him. And another episode had him come over for dinner where he becomes absent-minded, referring to Homer and Marge as Fred and Wilma Flintstone and Maggie as Pebbles. That was a funny scene. :p
 
Yep, the 80s showed Spacely at his worst.
-George has to spend the weekend doing computer work while Spacely lives it up. Spacely's comment: "Thanks Jetson, you've made my day! Too bad yours is so lousy!"
-In an episode where the Jetsons win a lottery, Spacely kisses up to George, making him sign a contract making them partners (where he will swindle him of his winnings). When inflation renders the lottery currency as worthless, Spacely reveals a loophole that makes the partnership null and void.
-When Jane and Mrs. Spacely compete in a Best Mother contest, Mr. Spacely pays someone to photograph any dirt that will hurt Jane's reputation. Despite the success of gaining and showing such evidence, it actually wins Jane the contest for showing her strength and patience in keeping the family together. As Mrs. Spacely browbeats her husband for his botch-up, George despairs that his boss will browbeat him.
-Jane and Mrs. Spacely compete in a plant contest. Mrs. Spacely has all the plants, but Jane manages to get an exotic and rare plantlife that is unusually intelligent (it wraps its tentacles on everyone and enjoys George's singing). When Spacely learns this, he secretly captures the plant. Despite being caught redhanded, Spacely orders George to get rid of the plant. When George laments his boss' immorality, Spacely promises to cap his wife's victory (and George's Barbershop Quartet performance) by firing him! Fortunately, the plant returns, wins Jane the plant contest, and juggles Spacely like a ball, forcing the man to relent and promise George a promotion.
-Spacely sues George for damaging his car. George's payment is to serve his boss hand and foot. Fortunately, the car turns out to have faulty breaking, which could have endangered Jane (since she was the one who crashed it). To avoid a lawsuit, Spacely is forced to serve the Jetsons hand in foot.
 
Guess I missed the Judy's birthday episode, but still can't imagine any reason for inviting such a mean little sawed-off-runt-of-a-boss to any family function like that... at least Slate seemed to respect Fred when Fred wasn't doing something idiotic to merit a feasible enough reason to invite *him* to Fred's birthday party... :-p

Re: Burns: all those Simpsons-house invites were for some business-related reason or other, vs. being friendly (the Flintstones reference one being where Burns was dating Marge's mother and wanted to marry her(!)...). Or in the all-time classic "Simpsons steal cable" episode, just deciding to uninvitedly crash the Simpsons' house (when Homer held his boxing match party) for his own reasons... :-p

Re: Blondie: Dithers often fired (and rehired) Dagwood in the Blondie comic strips (one recent strip had Dithers having Donald Trump call Dagwood to tell him "you're fired!").

-B.
 
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