Movie Fights

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theDude

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Something that's really annoying me about some films lately are all the fights filmed in 'wobbly' cam and edited quickly so you can't actually see what's going on. The Bourne Supremacy had this and Batman Begins too in a couple of scenes.

I find it daft that the actors put so much effort into getting the choreography down and then their hard work is not even seen. The feature on the Batman Begins disc is very thorough going into the styles and the training, but if all you're going to get is a flurry of blurry arms and legs then it seems like a bit of a waste fo time.

This also happens with car chases occasionally too - all very frenetic, but totally pointless!

Ah that's better....
 
Yeah, for fight scenes i appreciate that they would like a slightly hazy camera effect to show maybe the human perspective in a fight but Hollywood should do this sparingly.
 
I totally, totally agree with you here!!! Those films immediately jumped straight to mind!

Maybe they thought the actors performance wasn't convincing enough?
 
I think they are trying to show that in real life fights quickly become tangled, brutal messes, close and claustrophobic and the editing and wobbly cam are supposed to help the viewer experience this vicariously.

For my part, I prefer visually rather than viscerally arresting fight scenes.



Michelle Yeoh v Ziyi Zhang in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon surely, or something in the Jackie Chan ouvre; The final fight in Drunken Master 2 springs to mind, but there are a couple af ace examples in Young Master.
 
Yeah I don't mind them showing them descending into chaos, but if all you need is 5 frames of a fist flying, it seems a shame to make the actors spend 6 months putting the effort in when they could just do it all in a few takes.

Speaking of good punch ups, Indiana Jones had some good ones. Indy was a dirty fighter: biting and everything :D
 
You're right that three way with Darth Maul at the end of TPM more or less saved that film for me.

I forgot the classic fight between Bond and Red Grant on the Orient Express - that managed to be both gritty, claustrophobic and you could see what was going on.
 
I've been trying to see Drunken Master 2 (Legend of the Drunken Master) for years. Evidently no-one has the release rights to it in this country. I met a bloke from Hong Kong LegenRAB and he said it's a shame, they've been trying to arrange distribution but keep getting problems.

How did you guys see it?
 
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