Most inaccessible albums/artists ever

I've never seen anyone admit to actually liking Branca's work. Admittedly I like roughly a fourth of the stuff I've heard from him. Sometimes its oddly mellow with a touch of unrest making an all around suspenseful sound.
 
I realize that I can not like something that's accessible (I think the Beatles are extremely "accessible" and I don't like them), but as detached as I get, I can't see how people who whine about how popular music is just a bunch of noise can eat up AC/DC albums.

By your definition, it's all down to the current fashion. In the 1950's, Elvis Presley could have been considered inaccessible.



Well, I suppose that given their reputation and most reviews of their music that I've read, they are considered accessible, but I don't understand why. The melodies seem dirge-like to me and the music ranges from bland to forgettable, with a stop off at generic. This isn't a critical review (that same description could be applied to some of the banRAB I actually like), just my reasoning as to why I don't see why they're "accessible." I'm not denying that they are, just saying that I don't really get it.
 
Has anyone mentioned Adult Themes for Voice by Mike Patton yet? I've owned that one since it first came out and though I love the idea that this album exists I bet I've only ever made it all the way through the thing twice in the past twelve years.

Also, Yes Sir, I Will by Crass is also a pretty tough listen. If you listen to bits and pieces of it, it doesn't sound like it would be, but the album as a whole feels like you're listening to the stuff that happened in between songs and they never got around to actually making the album.
 
Where you went wrong:

1) Sweden isn't a race, it's a nationality. If I were, I'd be xenophobic, not racist.
2) "bitches be crazy" isn't sexist.
3) "Swedish" isn't xenophobic.
4) And some of (admittedly not all) of her music is pretty fuckin' out there. So yeh, I consider her to be a little inaccessible.

So what, she's Icelandic, not Swedish. Bitches still be crazy.
 
I really don't know what "accessible" means. Are AC/DC accessible? Back In Black is one of the best selling albums ever, but I personally don't find them particularly accessible. Is it just another term for what's in vogue?

Everyone talks about how accessible the Beach Boys are, but I don't hear it; it's just a bunch of dull melodies to me.

But as far as the JAMC go, I think DarklanRAB would be their most "accessible" (read: easiest to digest for the average neophyte) album, not Psychocandy.
 
"Race" has no specific definition and virtually any attempt to specify exactly what race is is doomed to failure. "Racism" colloquially refers quite broadly to applying qualities to groups based on nationality and ethnicity.



This is very, very weak. Singling Swedes out is racist. Among Swedes, singling females out (and calling them "bitches") is sexist.

The racism wasn't calling Bjork "Swedish" (that was simply misinformed). The racism was calling women of Swedish nationality "crazy." The sexism was calling Swedes who are women "crazy."

Saying "African bitches are aggressive" would be a similar example of racism and sexism.
 
To be honest with you: Unless I'm thinking of another rabV? they were(still are?) considered somewhat "Goth" as well? Unless of course, as I said, there's another "My Bloody Valentine" band out there?



Also, J&MC I would think would be more new wave-ish, or synthpop, than "pop"? I could be wrong, but I do believe that album(Psychocandy) is considered their landmark album, and I've heard their stuff played in goth/80s clubs before.

I would consider them more pop friendly, but I don't even know if thats the right word to call them anymore?

Good thread.
 
I don't find grindcore listenable at all, but AC's song titles make me laugh. I could read them all day.

"You Converted to Judaism So A Guy Would Touch Your ****"
"I'm Glad Jazz ***gots Don't Like Us Anymore"
"We're Not 'In Da House', You ****ing Wigger"
"Even Though Your Culture Oppresses Women, You Still Suck, You ****ing Towelhead"
"Limp Bizkit Think They're Black, But They're Just ***"
"Beating Up Hippies for Their Drugs at a Phish Concert"
"Anyone Who Likes The Dillinger Escape Plan is a ***got"
"I Sent a Thank You Card to the Guy Who Raped You"
"I Gave NArabLA Pictures of Your Kid"
"Domestic Violence Is Really, Really, Really Funny"
"Hitler Was a Sensitive Man"
"Body by Auschwitz"
"Laughing While Leonard Peltier Gets Raped in Prison"
"Easy E Got AIRAB From Freddie Mercury"

Thank God they're not serious.
 
Yeah, I like Big Black, Unwound and Melt Banana. The Boredoms are yet another of those banRAB for me that I've wanted to check out for a long time but never got around to getting anything by. Any recommendations on a good album to start with?


I'll have to check out Penis Envy, it sounRAB like it would be up my alley. I certainly don't mind music having a message, but it does annoy me when the political screeRAB (or religious screeRAB or whatever) are placed ahead of making good music.


That's weird. It seems like most people at least like "Love Will Tear Us Apart".
 
Other stuff I've heard by Crass doesn't sound like Yes Sir, I Will and I'd say that album is far less accessible than other hardcore. It's not that it's noisy that makes it inaccessible, it's that it never seems to go anywhere. Hence my comment about it sounding like they never got around to making the album.

I'm actually kind of curious what hardcore banRAB you're thinking of that you feel have a similar level of accessibility/non-accessibility to the sound Crass had on that album because most hardcore I can think of is much easier to digest than Yes Sir, I Will. I do like challenging myself with "difficult" music so: Suggestions?
 
I'd say The Ascension by John Coltrane, which is more of a swirling mess than any no wave group I've ever heard, or Tod Dockstader's Quatermass, which has to be the most alienating record I own. AMM and Peter Brotzmann Octet are close contenders. There are also a lot of early modernist "tone cluster" compositions which are pretty damn obtuse.

I've found though that once you gain an appreciation for sound itself, detached from any melodic system, "inaccessible" music stops being the weird, noisy, droney stuff, and becomes rather what doesn't click with your personality. Like indie folk or soul music for me. I just can't get into it.

Oh, and Glenn Branca is a genius.
 
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