Mormons: D&C 134: 4, 9; "We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with...

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...civil government...? "We believe that religion is instituted of God; and that men are amenable to him, and to him only, for the exercise of it, unless their religious opinions prompt them to infringe upon the rights and liberties of others….

We do not believe it just to mingle religious influence with civil government, whereby one religious society is fostered and another proscribed [prohibited] in its spiritual privileges, and the individual rights of its members, as citizens, denied."

What About Prop 8 and the Equal Rights Amendment?
desirexnoel-
precisely my point...not worried they have views...it is the influence wielded in these two instances to influence civil government...
LottaLou...you have every right to your religious beliefs....my point is about wielding religious influence regarding civil government...contrary to D&C 134
slcbtf - D&C 134:9 talks about denying INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of members of other religious societies , "as citizens", (which also includes secular humanism according to the Supreme Court) please read again...
Completely Ducky - I respect that....yet D&C 134 talks of not exercising religious influence in ways that cause denial of equal rights to all of our fellow citizens.
 
Joseph Smith wrote this at a time when he was fighting the U.S. He had no sign from God, and most of his religion is a lie, aside from the Bible, which they should really switch to NIV by the way. Nobody says the word "thou" anymore.
 
The problem with redefining Marriage, is that it takes away the rights & meaning of everyone who has been Married according to it's original definition.

Marriage is between one man and one woman.

Jesus said that a man shall leave his parents and find his wife and they two shall be one flesh.

And according to our oldest dictionaries, the definition has been the same; A covenant between one man and one woman.

So why change the definition of words used in legal documents. Isn't this just promoting lawlessness?!!

If two or more homosexuals want to make a commitment to each other, they should call it something else. Not marriage!!!!!!!
 
There is something you have missed in that as well...

It also states: WE believe that governments were instituted of God for the benefit of man; and that he holds men accountable for their acts in relation to them, both in making laws and administering them, for the good and safety of society.


You're forgetting that LDS belief that LDS believe that God is the instituter of Government. And that he holds us accountable for our acts.

as well as this portion: ....all governments have a right to enact such laws as in their own judgments are best calculated to secure the public interest; at the same time, however, holding sacred the freedom of conscience.

In other words we have the right to vote in accords to our freedom of conscience as well.

While I admit that not all people in the LDS church voted for Prop 8 or for the ERA. It is the freedom of their conscious that was playing the role as well as believing that God will hold us accountable for our actions in Government.
 
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