Micheal Bay has ruined the Franchise!

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This is a rant

The Transformers franchise died in 2007. Once a great inventive universe was turned into the fricking Sam Wiwicky show and a one and half hour advert for Shia Lebouef's shite acting. Transformers is supposed to be about the Transformers but instead we have Shia Lebeouf featuring the transformers.

The only way this can be resolved in a ret con of epic proportions. Within the first five minutes of the sequel the entire first film can be a dream sequence(a canny idea) and Shia Lebeouf can wake upto to be confronted by Megatron. Sam will utter in shock but I killed you, while Megatron will reply this is not a dream anymore, transformer into a Walther P18(not a sodding tank) and be caught by Starscream who will then blow Shia away.

Flick then to the title screen and the old Van Halen Transformers theme for a sequel that focuses on the stars of the show not the wooden Shia Lebeouf.

If this happens, the franchise can be saved and everyone is onto a winner.
 
There's not much on this Earth that's shittier than the Transformers movie, but your idea for the sequel manages it.
 
I am a huge fan of the original (1986) Transformers movie, but I also thoroughly enjoyed the 2007 live action one. I think the fact that Peter Cullen reprised his role as Prime really made it for me. :)
 
The Francise has been ruined by the 2007 film anyway. The moment Shia Lebeouf killed off Megatron.

This idea is a joke in all honesty, that should be obvious, but the point remains, the first film is pants mainly due to Shia Lebeouf.

Nevertheless, killing off Shia Lebeouf's character would be a step in the right direction and have the focus back on the real stars of the show, the transformers.
 
First thing about Movies is that you need someone who the audience can identify with. That acts as their eyes into the action.

Given that the nature of the movie is such that it will have a more adult audience than the cartoon or the original toys that is unlikely to be one of the robots!
 
I would not say this true in fantasy or sci fi films. The audience can identify with the normal themes, gooRAB vs evil, war on earth, etc.

Micheal Bay went with casting the up-coming star alongside latest eye candy because he did not have the creativity to look past the same tired forumlaic ways. I hope the second film bombs.
 
'Within the first five minutes of the sequel the entire first film can be a dream sequence'

Oh yeah because thats not an idea that would annoy 96% of the audience
 
Go on then - name a popular Sci Fi / Fantasy film that doesn't have a humanoid type central character for the audience to identify with.
 
You are going on like he is one of the worst actors out there, he's hardly that bad. In my eyes, it's Megan Fox they should recast, now that's a wooden actress. I don't care how good looking she is, and I must be in the minority because I don't see what is special about her.
 
My problem with the movie are the actual robots. they have too much detail. The only way I could tell Starscream and Megatron apart was when Starscream transformed to a jet and I thought Scopanok was a city sized robot?
 
I was never a fan of Transformers as a child, I had a couple toys but that was all, however I LOVE the first film! It's just a great action film, nothing more nothing less!

I've already booked my tickets to see Revenge of the Fallen!!!!
 
You're not wrong there. I bought it on Blu-Ray thinking that it would really shine.. and it does, but too much! In some sequences you can barely make out what's happening with the Transformers because there are so many wires, tubes and pipes distracting you!

Scorponok was a city but not as big as Metroplex I don't think. If memory serves me correctly, he was primarily a battle robot when the Headmasters first appeared, and had been a city robot previous to that, although I might be wrong ;)
 
Going by the old comics he was a leader of a group of Decepticons and summoned by Lord Zarak to Nebulos, or if you go by the cartoons, as many of us tend to do, he was built from an entire city with Lord Zarak as his head.

Back on topic. I must admit I hated the idea of the 2007 TF movie. I'm a "Geewunner" as they're called, a real G1 purist and hated the idea of Michael Bay raping my childhood. So after hating the movie and everything about it for so long, I pulled myself out to watch it on DVD and it started to grow on me, and now I really like the 2007 so much that I even plan on going to see RotF this weekend. :D

The problem is Bay & Co. are trying to please everybody, if there wasn't enough detail people would complain, and if there is too much detail people will complain. I can overlook Shia's wooden acting, it's not as if the cartoons from G1 to even TF:Animated is without it's cheese and dodgy dialogue. I always felt that Spike, carly et al were one of the "wrong" elements of the original cartoon. However to have an entire movie devoted to CGI robots/battles would be an unwelcome borefest which would only alienate some fans. For all intensive purposes there does need to be a human element in there IMO, even if it was the extremely wooden Meagan Fox. :D
 
I really liked the film. And they had to use a human actor as the main character. Using the transformers themselves would have been very difficult as they have very little facial expression which is obviously essential in cinema such as this
 
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