Men more likely to die of broken heart

[bluepenguin]

Genetics is hardly my field, but it can't be in our genes, can it?

Not if it's "only" been 20000 years, I mean.



On a loosely related note, I read richard Morgan's Black Man, a month or so ago.

It's about a bloke who's genetically engineered to be a (genetic) throwback to the time when people were hunter-gatherers. It came with an interesting outlook on human evolution. He's kind of kickass, but doesn't fit in with the rest of society all that well, too fierce, like. Super-duper alpha male kind of thing.


Book-tip, like.

 

[whitefeathersnpr]

I thought we were having a discussion not an argument.

The reason I wrote it was "apparently sufficient" for you is due to the fact that you haven't asked Squeamous to meet the standards you applied to me.
Your participation thus far has been to declare my data as irrelevant while allowing S. the luxury of providing no supporting data at all.

You can see why I made the assumption, maybe?

Good discussions are made with good arguments... that's not the shouting at each other kind of argument.

If and when she provides some sources I will read them a I read yours, and apply the same criteria to them as I did to yours. I rather suspect that she was opining and as such has no intention of providing any such sources, and she is as entitled to her opinion as you are to yours... at least until either is proven wrong.

 

[Me_rdrgz]

It's exactly the same for girls Snee. Girls suffer probably more mental torture from other girls than boys do as well as the physical violence, and yet the rates of suicide in young males are much higher than females and have been going up despite being touchy feely about emotions becoming more and more acceptable.

I think the male psyche just has a hard time dealing with the modern world.

:idunno:

It's my impression that girls have an easier time coping with the bad stuff 'cos it's acceptable for them to deal with their feelings in ways that'd get a bloke called a sissy, even from a very tender age, like, and that that leads to a pattern of behaviour with regards to dealing with your own feelings that is much healthier in the long run.

Having never actually been a girl, like, I can't say for certain, though.

Might just be that we're behind, like, as you say :idunno: Could be all the testosterone, I suppose.

 

[lil_c200516101]

"Women don't have the same capacity for violent self pity that men do."

"Women commit the majority of child homicides in the United States; more than 80 percent of neonaticides; an equal or greater share of severe physical child abuse; an equal rate of spousal assault; about a quarter of child sexual molestations; and a large proportion of elder abuse... The rate at which infants are murdered by women in the U.S. is higher than the rate at which women are murdered by men." With carefully researched facts, fascinating case histories, and incisive argument, Patricia Pearson succeeds in demolishing the myth that women are not naturally violent. When She Was Bad considers two different issues: (1) how we see violent women--that we either excuse their behavior with a "syndrome defense" such as battered woman syndrome, or else see them as the passive partners of violent men; (2) how we see aggression itself--that we perceive it as physical and blatant, thus missing the ways in which women more commonly use verbal assaults and indirect strategies."
Patricia Pearson
from When She was Bad...:Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence

A significant proportion (16-29%) of filicides end in completed suicide by the mother (56). Many other mothers make non-fatal suicide attempts in association with their filicides. When mothers of young children commit suicide, about 5% also kill at least one of their children (57,58).

Filicide-suicides have much in common with filicides committed by severely mentally ill mothers (15). Most frequently, these mothers have altruistic motives (15,23). Similar to results of other studies (15,20,48), our recent American study found that maternal filicide-suicide perpetrators killed older children more often than infants (mean age of children killed was 6 years old). The mothers often had evidence of depression or psychosis (23). These mothers often take the lives of all their young children.
-source

Breaking News

The Post Chronicle
http://www.postchronicle.com
Published: Aug 1, 2007

Mother Kills Children In Murder-Suicide

An Ohio woman going through a divorce shot her son and daughter in the heart and then turned the gun on herself, a coroner said Wednesday.

Mary Ann Wittich of Cincinnati drugged Jacob, 10, and Sydney, 7, on Monday night, Dr. O

 

[Yourmandrew]

I rather suspect that she was opining and as such has no intention of providing any such sources

We can certainly agree on that.

 

[Annagram the Eskimoette]

That's what I mean. We're not so different to how we were 20,000 years ago physiologically speaking. We've come so far scarily fast, and I don't think our brains can cope. That is, women's cope better because we're more emotionally sophisticated on account of having to raise children, but we still don't cope brilliantly. That's why there's so much mental illness in the West I reckon....it's not all to do with better diagnosis.

Edit: Thanks for the tip by the way.

 

[!-kristi-!]

women have tears

women have boobs .

 

[Marie-Lise]

Only you didn't call me on it did you? You tried to but failed.

Do you seriously doubt my quote? When was the last time you heard of a woman killing herself after being dumped and taking her children with her? In the last 6 months I've seen two cases in the news here in the UK, both men, of this sort of crime, both of which sought to seek revenge on their partner by killing their children. Those are two off the top of my head and there have been many more in the media prior. Women don't have the same capacity for violent self pity that men do.

women are complicated like chess....men are simple....women are indirectly responsible for the killing,men act on their instincts if such a killing did happen....it happens all the time in the animal world,males killing the young....

what media shows us is the manipulated truth,truth is we dont really want to know the actual truth. we r just happy reading stats ...but i think a sensible single male can bring up a child a lot better a resourcefull single mom....because women are have always been attracted to materialistic things a lot more then males...

women want to look good ALL THE TIME...men are ok with what they wear after a while...and "men have bigger brains then females" true fact (courtesy-"FAMILY GUY")...some times i think its true remember women cant compete men in chess there has never been a women world champion i am not sure about it but i havent read about any other then susan polgar too bad for her then there was KASPAROV.

 

[Рoppy Seed ♥ ♥ ♥]

no one can claim an opinion like that without proof,thats sexist such opinions need to be proved especially when its such a delicate matter...what would innocent people who read such posts by "Squeamous" might think??,they might be misguided into beliving that what ever Squeamous claims might be actually happening...and its a disgrace for men...do u really think some one can just have an opinion which is offensive remark against men not to mention without any proofs and voice it in a male dominated forum like this.....welll it might bring down the moral and dignity of the future generation of men since most of them here are 15-16 year old,like MEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO DIE OF A BROKEN HEART IS NOT DEPRESSING ENOUGH dont mind me

 

[DandaMan!]

i think its got a lot to do with the fact that girls chat a lot more (thousands of words per day)compared to boys. boys bottle up their feelings, that makes them depressed.

 

[Sarcasm]

Statistics say no...

Children under the age of 5 in the United States are more likely to be killed by their parents than anyone else. Contrary to popular mythology, they are rarely killed by a sex-crazed stranger. FBI crime statistics show that in 1999 parents were responsible for 57 percent of these murders, with family friends and acquaintances accounting for another 30 percent and other family members accounting for 8 percent. Crime statistics further reveal that of the children under 5 killed from 1976 to 1999, 30 percent were murdered by their mothers while 31 percent were killed by their fathers.

Rest of article here.
Admittedly this article does not delve into the "why" (i.e., were they "dumped" beforehand?), maybe you have other info pertaining to that.

 

[GuitarKid]

no one can claim an opinion like that without proof

Of course they can, it's in the Magna Carta or something.

Hell, a significant percentage of Americans think that Obama is a Muslim, all evidence to the contrary.

 

[AskMeStuff]

I can only assume this is a parody of S.'s posting style.

Bravo.

 

[japankorea]

"Women don't have the same capacity for violent self pity that men do."

A significant proportion (16-29%) of filicides end in completed suicide by the mother (56). Many other mothers make non-fatal suicide attempts in association with their filicides. When mothers of young children commit suicide, about 5% also kill at least one of their children (57,58).

Filicide-suicides have much in common with filicides committed by severely mentally ill mothers (15). Most frequently, these mothers have altruistic motives (15,23). Similar to results of other studies (15,20,48), our recent American study found that maternal filicide-suicide perpetrators killed older children more often than infants (mean age of children killed was 6 years old). The mothers often had evidence of depression or psychosis (23). These mothers often take the lives of all their young children.
-source

Breaking News

The Post Chronicle
http://www.postchronicle.com
Published: Aug 1, 2007

Mother Kills Children In Murder-Suicide

An Ohio woman going through a divorce shot her son and daughter in the heart and then turned the gun on herself, a coroner said Wednesday.

Mary Ann Wittich of Cincinnati drugged Jacob, 10, and Sydney, 7, on Monday night, Dr. O’dell Owens, the Hamilton County coroner, told the Cincinnati Enquirer. On Tuesday morning, she shot her daughter first after drawing an “X” over her heart and then her son. (Source)



Texas Mom Kills Family, Self, Police Say

By JEFF CARLTON
The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 1, 2007; 12:11 AM

FLOWER MOUND, Texas — A stay-at-home mother in an affluent Dallas suburb fatally shot her husband and two children as they slept before killing herself, police said.

Detectives were reviewing a suicide note left in the house, where Andrea Roberts killed her husband, Michael Lewis Roberts, and children, Micayla, 11, and Dylan, 7, police said. Each had a single gunshot wound to the head…. (Full Story)

There are two examples- both from the same day even- of behaviour that you claim women don't exhibit.
For every high profile case you find of a father killing his children, I'll bet I can find a matching one involving the mother...after all, the numbers back me up.

Have you actually read anything I've said? I said men do it more often than women 'as revenge for relationship breakdown'....that is the kind of mental weakness I'm talking about....driven by ego. You gave one example not two, and there will always be the odd case, there are no absolutes. None of your figures address my point that men do that more often than women.

I can't believe you posted all that guff and it was completely irrelevant to my point.

 

[<morgiexXxbear>]

by men they mean fags, rite? :eyebrows:

 

[BroD]

They're also more likely to take their kids to their graves with them when they get dumped. This is on account of them being more prone to ego-driven acts of irrationality. When it comes to emotional susceptibility to external influence I think they're the weaker sex.

Hmmmm.... no comment!

 

[rockys W]

All men are secretly :emo:

 

[teddyboy]

Of course they can, it's in the Magna Carta or something.

Hell, a significant percentage of Americans think that Obama is a Muslim, all evidence to the contrary.

On the plus side at least they won't be worry about what his Church pastor said :shifty:

:ermm: they are going to hold two opposing and mutually incompatible views aren't they?

 

[sameshxtdifferntdayy2011]

""men SHOULDNT lose interest in masterbating with or without a gf"....and that really helps when being dumped by a gal,atleast i tot it was a lot easier to make up for the loss....and also knowing there is nothing such as true love and you r gonna fall out of love eventually.",i will write a book on broken hearts and this whole phrase is copyrited^^....


yesterday i went out with somegal,and i tot since it was sunday there wouldnt be cops unfortunately i was asked to stop by a traffic police ,i didnt i gave full throttle and rodeaway at full speed,i think the police made a note of my number,it was all because of the gal...i wouldnt even have been there if it wasnt for her...i am feeling scared about evading cops and making them look bad.... masterbating is not helping,...i cant figure out y i do the things i do...i seem to be normal on the outside ,but i am soo stupid

 

[Sally]

You're right about the mental torture, though. Girls can be harsh to the max. They make for easier targets too, 'cos of all that crap about how they have to look, and so forth.

And the psychological terror was always worse than the physical, far as I remember.