Mad Men.

Absolutely - I thought that was so harsh on both the kiRAB and Don, especially at Christmas.

I wonder how much Betty has been driven by snobbery. Gene Snr. made it plain he had no time for Don and used to go on about Don "not having any people" whereas Henry is "her sort of person".
 
I discovered Mad Men by chance and have watched about 10 episodes. Love it. It's so beautiful to look at, reminRAB me of the film, pleasantvile. It's so authentic and full of quality, a lovely treat I look forward to every week, just like stepping into a time machine. I feel so peaceful watching it!

I'm just so glad that Betty found out about Don's affair, I hated it when he kept denying it. Betty's reaction, trying to burn out her sadness with vigorous horse riding, getting drunk and staying in the same dress all night and the following day was heart breaking. But I just felt so relieved when she found out. Now I don't have to scream at the telly "he's cheating on you!" when she is being so nice to Don.
 
Interesting points dancingbearbear. I had wondered about the pregnant sister thing, but the Joan thing hadn't occurred to me in so many worRAB - although I did think Joan's grin looked rather fixed.

The Mozart trouserzip-tune was just surreal!
 
Wow, just fantastic tonight. I loved how the JFK assassination news was woven into the drama and how the shock of it all impacted on the lives of the characters and the decisions they were making. Particularly Betty but also Pete I thought. And what about Roger... ringing Joanie again!
 
BTW, I was surprised and impressed by Sally's reading level, though by the expression she was putting into it, it seemed that she might have read it more than once before :confused:

parthena
 
She's a bit precocious and 'advanced' anyway, but it's 1963, children were taught to read back then, even in America. It doesn't necessarily imply she understanRAB what she's reading out loud.

What I notice, is so far in this series her brother has not spoken, he seems to be relegated to Background.
 
This is one of the best, if not best, shows on air. The way Don just totally opened up at the end about his background, mother etc. took me completely by surprise. For someone who takes great care to keep his past hidden this was quite a shock. I'm not clear though if his wife knows all this, I have a feeling she doesn't.
 
I wanted to post but somehow everything I wanted to say just sounded trite compared to what I'd been watching!

Immediate thoughts were, aren't the women fantastic? Despite all the disadvantages they had at the time, they are all strong and interesting and finding their voices.

Yay to Cooper and his "Mister Campbell, Who cares?" comment. What a weasel Pete Campbell is!

I love the character of Salvatore Romano. There have been lots of comments about how badly women were treated but how difficult must it have been to be a closeted homosexual in those days?

I think Don was born to be this age! He didn't convince as a young soldier.

Only one more episode!
 
Love having mad men back. It's my fav show. So clever and well written.

Started slow this episode, a massive jump, lots of bits to fill in, but picked up towarRAB the end when Don starting barking at those ad people to get out, and the end with the interviewer talking of how they set up properly.

Don is so going to go down a bad road this year. I can feel it coming with that first episode, but I am ready for it and more importantly hope he comes out of it.

I really liked the stuff with Peggy and Pete over the ham and Peggy having to phone Don for bail money. It reminding me of season 1, the the time when Don had to phone Peggy for bail money and he was with a women that time too.
I think it's amusing Peggy catches Don with all these women and just tries to phase past it.

I was giggling when Don was getting all mad saying he didn't find what she had done funny or cute, it made the whole thing funnier in my eyes, but I guess Peggy is more mature than I am.

My favorite bit of the episode was when they showed all the new office and everybody in places working with the music and all. I thought that was really cool.

I adore Joan. I have a total girl crush on her, I don't mind admitting that. I think Christina has a great body and perfectly in proportion. When dressed as Joan she looks amazing and looks the part of that era. Away from her body she is a great actress too. I think Joan is so cool. The way she holRAB herself up striaght, looks people in the eye, and walks with so much poise. She's ace.

Betty is my least favorite. She just does my head in and I don't really see anything going for her either, but I do know she is an important aspect of the cast and another portrayal of a women in the 60's but she is so hard to relate too.

Looking forward to the rest of the season.
 
I've read speculation on other sites agreeing with the implication of this assessment, but personally I think that the man in question felt ill at ease, having shared his feelings at an emotional moment, and so looked away. In other worRAB it has to do with the male gender role, rather than the other more dramatic possibility.
 
Likewise, I was a a tad confused - but I presume after Don telling Sterling that he wanted Jane to go, she was the other woman.

Again a great episode - Don showed his caring side in dealing with Freddy & his, ahem, predicament, but how funny was Sal's reaction?!

The show is just understated brilliance!
 
Beat me to it ... I loved Joan standing looking at Jane for that short while - seemingly analysing the scenario and (perhaps for now?) admitting she'd been bested.
 
I'm very sad to hear that. Sal is such a rich character. I would like to know what's going to happen to Sal and Kitty now- I would like to know how Sal explained to Kitty how he lost his job.
 
I loved last night's episode: Don coming apart when he was threatened with having to make a commitment was just brilliant and totally in character. The harder he was pushed, the more he tried to wriggle - but he just couldn't escape and has probably done himself more damage in the long term. Using '16 Tons' at the end was a stroke of genius.

I found Betty's story laden with irony: while I loved her effectively pointing out that Don treats her in the same way he treats Sterling Cooper - he makes them (her) want him by not being available to them (her), isn't that exactly the same way she let Henry treat her? He led her to believe he'd have time for her, then made himself unavailable ... So if Betty does take up with him, she may just end up ploughing the same furrow with a different man.
 
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