Mad Men.

No I thought the Sally storyline was uncomfortable too. I wondered how they did it so as not to put the actress through something inappropriate - but I'm sure they would have done it in the correct, professional way.

The main reason I was uncomfortable was just that is seemed well outside the Mad Men world that I've come to expect and enjoy watching: The whole 60s style, New York cool, Don Draper shenanigans, complex adult characters etc. Suddenly we were in a very different kind of story. "Do we have to go there?" I was thinking

I'm guessing the incident is just the starting point for long storyline that does eventually relate back to Don and Betty and takes us back into the cool, complex , Mad Men world we know and love.
 
I think Betty jumped on what she found as a stick to beat Don with purely because she'd wanted one of those for so long (perhaps with some justification). By this time, Henry was in the frame.

Of course Don deceiving her isn't a good thing. However, it's not like she's discovered her husband is a serial killer who's been stalking Manhattan by day then returning to her at night as if nothing happened. Moreover, she's quite happily enjoyed the financial benefits Don has reaped from his genuine professional talent.

Don't forget that Betty's infidelities aren't exclusively fantasy: she had that quickie in the office at the bar where she went fairly explicitly with the intention of having a one-night stand. (I loved that scene when she got home afterwarRAB and chewed a chicken drumstick :cool:).

And, despite his occasional prolonged absences, I'd agree that Don cares more for his children than Betty does - perhaps because of what he never had as a child himself?
 
I think this is just a continuation of the Sally stories we had in the last season- her reaction to her grandfathers death, her reaction to the baby being born etc.
I also think it's a good way of showing how both Betty's and Don's actions are affecting Sally.

I didn't find it particularly uncomfortable though- child actors have been forced to do far worse and say far more graphic things, and to put in such a fantastic performance as the actress does, she must be a very intelligent and self aware girl
 
And West Wing surely?!

I agree with your points. I love British telly - quirky theme nights on BBC4 and 2, Coronation St and less obtrusive adverts (etc) BUT my favourite shows are American.

I'd say generally, the best thing is to live here and pick the best of the American shows to watch.

This works until you realise you have to wait months after the Americans for the next series of Mad Men. :(
 
I agree putting add breaks in this programme would be a real shame.

Being able to be engulfed in the 60's and enter a time long gone is such a pleasure.

The detail of this programme is a real treat.

Dont mind who shows it but add free please.

They did the pacific add free lets hope they can do the same with this.
 
The outfits are very 1950s because that is how it was in the first 3 or 4 years of the 1960s.

If you look back to the clothes worn in the early 1990s they are not different from those in the late 1980s.

Having not been born until 1972 I asked my dad if the outfits are authentic and he said they were spot on. If you're not convinced I'd suggest looking at some Jackie O footage from the period. :)

I think if Mad Men progresses we will see how fashion changed in the 1960s. I kind of hope the series keeps skipping years so we can see them in the mid and late 60s too.
 
Loved Sunday's episode - it left so many things to think about.

Surely Peggy will have to have the baby adopted?

Why doesn't Don just drive over to where his family are?

Is Pete going to implode?!

Watched the last ep of ER the other night - I've been a fan since the start - and I quite enjoyed the dramatic season finale (who, if anyone got killed...wait till next season to find out.)

BUT it can't compare to the quietly played, real life small tragedies unfolding in Mad Men.

What do you do if you've just had a baby, you're a single mum in 1960 and yet your career is just starting?

Or if you feel trapped in your life and your career isn't what you feel it should be?

Or if you cheated on your wife at one stupid drunken office party and she won't have you back?

Or if you found out your husband was having an affair?

Or if you think you left it too late to tell your family you need them?

And so on!

Roll on next seaon!
 
It did seem unlikely BBC would want to drop such a high quality series like MM, but then again you never know nowadays what they're all going to do. Plenty of mistakes and bad decisions are made it seems.

Interesting obsevations about Peggy - but I do hope she doesn't have that sort of history with Don. Maybe that could be why she was especially hurt, not just in a professional context, and went off on a bender with Don's 'enemy' to get back at him?



If I remember correctly, some time back Pete inadvertedly found out about Don's true identity and went to Cooper to reveal all. But Cooper wasn't bothered in effect and stood by Don. But he knows he isn't 'Don Draper'. Hence the implied inference.
 
I think there was some well-concealed disappointment there - all totally in keeping with Anna's character, steeped in low self-esteem: she has a bad leg; she never understood why the real Don married her, instead of her sister; and that is only confirmed when Don/Dick tells her the real Don never mentioned her.

With her confidence at an all-time low, no wonder she never demanded anything of Don/Dick: she never for one moment thought he'd reciprocate and couldn't face the prospect of more rejection. Becoming a mother figure to him - I agree with your comparison - was a safe option that would at least give her company, even if she wanted more, deep down.

It's precisely this depth of characterisation that makes Mad Men so compelling - the fact we're all still talking about this episode days after transmission is a testament to that. :cool:

If only all television was as rich and rewarding as this ...
 
They didn't drop 24, they moved their channels to a narrow beam satellite and so stopped paying Sky's encryption costs. Then Sky's parent company threw their toys out the pram and awarded 24 exclusively to Sky
 
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