Mad Men.

It was interesting to see one of the early episodes of NCIS briefly - I didn't realise it had been going quite that long.
A continuation of the theme from an episode a few years ago, when Gibbs was asked what Ducky looked like when he was young and replied that he looked like Illya Kuryakin.
 
I am guessing Sal has not slept with another man, as he was very uncomfortable when a guy propositioned him in the first series. From the brief scenes we have seen, it seems his wife knows there is something wrong, but doesn't know he is gay.
 
I agree with you about David Ogilvy but the Beatles didnt go to America until February 1964 and Dr No had only just been released.This series is set before the Kennedy assassination (in fact the date takes on a special importance in a later episode)

Imo decades do not run culturally from 00 to 09, the Swinging Sixties really got started in 1964/65 just as the SEventies didnt really start until 1972 (I know, I was there. And working in advertising :) )

So I think the way the 'Brits' are portrayed in MM is quite convincing at the moment. Who knows what changes will occur in later series?
 
I wonder if we will see the layers peeled away from Joan's character ..my thoughts about her changed when we saw her crying when she was called in to the office after Roger had his heart attack..perhaps she feels she only good enough for the men in the office to have affairs with her... rather than settle down with her.

Oh and I agree about Rachel and Don.....something special there
 
Betty typically showed her icy cold side by leaving the children with Carla, when Don said he would not fight her so could of left them with him, but maybe all trust she has in him had gone. I think she is making a big mistake by going with Henry Francis, a man who could turn out to be 10 times as worse as Don!. The scene with Don and Peggy was very touching, both haunted by a shady past.
 
Peggy is a bad girl. It is always the quiet ones! LOL!!! :) I remember her previous exploits, particularly in season one!!! Now smoking pot and just last week she had another liaison!

Don is the uber alpha male of the advertising world!!!
 
Did anyone notice the worRAB of the closing song... "in the future, you will find a love that lasts." It would be great to see Don grow and create an honest relationship. I think there are two candidates: Rachel Mencken, and believe it or not, Betty-- after she has grown up and left Henry Francis.
 
I've just watched Ep 3 "My Old Kentucky Home" and the American comments are all about whether blackface was acceptable at that time - most seeming to say that it already wasn't.

I was born in 1962 and I clearly remember the dire Black & White Minstrel show being on TV when I was a child - was the UK that far behind the US in its sensibilities?

I loved Carla's putdown to Gene "We don't all know each other, Mr Hofstadt".
 
I think you could both be right - this is such a multilayered piece of work, the more you look, the more you see in it.



I thought there were several stereotypes in this episode - stereotypical Gay (new) Best Friend who can style and cut hair was the most glaring (he is also a Stereotypical Liberal European) but there were also Stereotypical Englishmen (St John whatsit and sidekick with their "What Ho Jeeves" accents) and Stereotypical Decadent European Aristocracy (Willi and co).

Roger's put-down of Duck was superb - just when I didn't see it coming, had been taken in and a little surprised by his apparent willingness to propose Duck as a partner. I like this Roger better than the Roger who went soppy over the manipulative Jane. Duck should be renamed "Shark" I think.
 
Sheer genius - again. :cool:

That final scene was cut together so brilliantly - the different shots on Don and Betty in the car in silence ... neither of them knowing what Jimmy had said to the other. Then Betty's final, um, gesture ... :eek:

While I am desperate to see what both Betty and Joan do next, the biggest hook of all was that flashback right at the top of the episode to when Don was selling cars and the woman says 'You're not Don Draper at all' ... what happens next there?
 
He not sympathic but he is interesting, the tyro who both admires and hates Don. He thinks he has the moves and worRAB but usually gets exposed as naive or clumsy.
 
behind the US? Lynchings wre still happening in the mid 60s one I saw a photo off had a crowd of 20,000 watching as the victim was hung over a fire.
 
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