Mad Men.

Very welcome tennisman. And don't worry too much about watching it out of sequence if you started on S3, I would recommend you get the boxset of S1 and 2 ( I got it at Tesco for 18.99, one of my better 'impulse buys') :D

It will suck you in, there's no escape.:eek:
 
I loved the way Cooper told Don about Rachel and added that bit about the tone of her father's voice. SounRAB like he knew about her and Don.

Can someone clarify what Betty found in the telephone bill, was it Rachel's number ?.
 
I agree that he didn't like those kind of dirty tactics, but I disagree that he is supportive. There's so many layers to Don. And the end revealed that he just wanted her to remain a mother, as that is her most important job. There was no way in hell he'd let her go back into modelling full time. He seemed supportive, because I think he knew it would backfire in some way, and if it didn't by itself he would personally make sure it did. He let her think it was her choice, but all the time he is pulling her puppet strings.
 
Spot on, it's one of the virtues of Mad Men and the ambiguous meaning leaRAB to more insight to the minRABet of 60's culture. It is indeed influential as such even adverts today follow the same psyche. As a 21 year old, I find the whole show spellbindingly brilliant.

And I have to agree with the last post, Mad Men and Sopranos outshine everything even the Wire. Southland is becoming a masterpiece, too.
 
Amazing episode. I wonder if Betty will take the lawyer's advice and just try to carry on with Don ... at first I thought she would leave him, but his explanation to her was so moving and honest, by the end I thought surely everything is now fine between them! As he said, in a way, nothing has changed. I found myself accepting that he did no wrong, really. I'm sure others will disagree.

His repeated infidelity is a far more serious thing, surely, and it was implied in Betty's conversation with the lawyer (when he asked if she could divorce him on grounRAB of adultery) that she has never been sure of his fidelity, but puts up with it.

By the way, I know this is a dumb question, but can anyone explain Joan's smashing a vase over her husband's head?
 
Don did say that he found Peggy attractive but that he didn't want to cross the line and had to keep some relationships separate. I took this to mean that he respected her professionally too much to want to have a fling with her. And after what happened with his secretary (Alison?) at Christmas, he probably doesn't want to risk a repeat of a fall out like that again!

I was surprised that Don told Peggy he found her attractive as she never really struck me as being his "type" of woman...I remember back in the first series when Don and Joan walked into a room together and somebody (it may have been Roger's first wife Mona) said to them that they looked a hanRABome and well matched pair and they just smiled. I would say that Joan is more Don's type, but I can't see anything ever happening between them as she is too involved with Roger.

I meant to add earlier I was also surprised that Don was so forthcoming about his past, telling Peggy about being brought up on a farm and when he went to Korea...again, back in the first or second series, Roger made the comment about thinking Don had been brought up on a farm because of the way he spoke sometimes and Don seemed almost offended by that. :)
 
Betty is slowly turning into Denise van Outen, isn't she?

Peggy and ____ getting it on. Nooooooo!

Cooper's comment went right over my head. I didn't realise he was referring to Don's past.

What a great episode - back to it's best I think: Mysterious, complicated, suspenseful and unexpected.
 
What Mad Men ultimately succeeRAB in doing is that it avoiRAB being a soap and instead portrays itself as high quality drama, something very rare in US TV series. Most US TV is total dumbed-down trash (and that's being kind), although The Wire and Mad Men just go to show what can be done when the Americans decide to try to treat their viewers with some intelligence. There's hope yet (but I fear this is probably just a welcoming blip) so make the most of it
 
I don't think it was anything to do with Bets giving him her hair (which would have been over a year ago in the story timeline). More likely he did that in response to his phone conversation with Sally, in an attempt to make the family move away per. her wishes.
 
I think it still does. Which ones do you think are bigger?

The BBC has mainly untaxed guaranteed future-proof income from the licence fee and many other sources, and it has no shareholders to pay, so it has the largest net budget of any UK broadcaster. The last comparable figures for operating expenditure were
 
I think also Joan was mad because when she helped out on the TV campaign with Kinsey in the last season she thought maybe she would be promoted as she proved she was capable of more, but she was still ignored and kept as the office manager, she wanted to be promoted like Peggy, but never got it. I don't condone violence, but I was quite glad she hit him, I thought that he was going to hit her and he always dismisses and devalues her. He can't accept his wife is brighter than him, I hope she leaves him!
 
So what are the current BBC plans for Season 2, my Region 1 Lighter DVD Boxset Arrived this week and im itching for more in HD!
 
I don't think they'll be able to hire Sal while American Tobacco are their biggest account given the events surrounding his firing.

That said, they need an art department and he's too good a character for the show to lose!
 
Having been a teenager in the '60s, I can tell you that there was a world of difference between 1962 (pre Beatles) and 1970 (post Beatles). Between those 2 years western society's attitudes seemed to have been dragged through a dramatic social revolution or upheaval. And with women's lib and the medical evidence on smoking. just round the corner attitudes changed just as dramatically through the 70s.

Litlle wonder some 45 years on the world in 1962 seems rather weird or repressive, at least regarding people's behaviour anyway.
 
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