Mad Men.

Oh, I completely agree, it wouldn't be "real" if they didn't smoke, but my point was more related to the total ban on smoking on US TV. Heck, Jennifer Aniston was even hushed during her interview with Oprah at the end of FrienRAB when she mentioned that she'd smoked a cigarette after the last episode had been shot.

I just thought it was an interesting point to make, that's all ;)
 
ah yes, quite right, also I take your point about Jane :) I love Mad Men, it's my most favourite programme, I think I'm the only one who watches it, so this thread is great, I must visit more often. Man Men is just so classy and clever!
 
I'm going to stick up for Betty here!
Having made her decision she had to get on with it really and the sooner the better for everyone.
The two older children hadn't even met Henry and it would have been quit traumatic for all concerned to suddenly be off on a trip with him, and knowing Sallys' temperament she may have tried to refuse anyway!
Also back in those days it's likely that men didn't take on the caregiver role for more than a few hours at a time making it more sensible that they would be with Carla who took care of them anyway than their father.
That may be a bit garbled as my dinner is nearly ready but that's what I think:)
 
Betty is like the quintessential Hitchcock blonde - well-bred, icy and composed on the surface, but mostly hides her complexities and torn emotions. I think her detachment has mainly come from a deep-seated sense of things not being right with her marriage, which was finally proved correct. As she said herself after Don's admission, "At least I know I'm not crazy". I wish Series 3 would take up where this left off, but I suspect it will be a long leap again.

In the June (UK) issue of Harper's Bazaar there is a good interview with January Jones. She is on the cover and rather unrecognisable at first without the 50's makeup (which suits her so well).

JJ says about her character, " The truth is, I'm as confused by her as anyone. I don't judge Betty, but I often think, 'Really? That's the move she's making next?'" It says that she was "so vexed by Betty's infidelity that she marched to M.Weiner's office and argued a case for her character's morals. 'I was like, "Why would she do this?" He said it was possibly the end of the world - the Cuban Missile Crisis was going on - and there are no consequences for her actions."

Weiner says: "It always felt to me that in season one, Betty was a child, and season two became her adolescence. So, having been awakened to Don's infidelity, she needed to act out." He also says that he's not sure she has reached her breaking point, but he knows that her understanding of her marriage has changed. Oh dear, to me that spells more trouble in their marriage - I was really hoping there would be some light for them again.

It's interesting to note that JJ first went to audition for the role of Peggy.

There's mention that the third season production is under way. Nothing given away but there is a hint that the swinging 60's could have its effect. Personally, I could've enjoyed another whole series of the period they were last left in, and all the storylines delved into and sorted out. From that, then go into the liberated (yet destructive) later era. To see all the characters revelling in the frolics and temptations of that time will no doubt be as fascinating and as stylishly executed as we've already seen.
 
I can see where you are coming from- but it works really well for me. I like the slow burn and the attention to detail. I particularly like the way that they will use small issues to flag up character and plot development.
 
Quick question:

I live somewhere (Channel IslanRAB) where things like Channel 5 and BBC4 etc. are only accessible if you have a satellite dish/receiver, and I'm currently watching the last two episodes of Season One on BBC2.

One of my brothers has a satellite dish/receiver and I've often watched BBC4 etc. whenever I've babysat for his kiRAB, but I can't remember if I first saw Mad Men at his house or at where I live at the moment. And I remember seeing the famous "carousel" bit (at the end of Season One) a long time ago...

So can any of you fans tell me whether what I'm watching now is the first time Mad Men has ever been broadcast on BBC2 (or BBC1) or not?
 
In duncann's defense, you've misread his/her post. He/she did not say there was a Tory or Conservative Party in the US. The reference to the Tories was to say that in the UK, the change of era was kicked off by the Tory election loss while in the USA, it was Kennedy's murder that was the dividing line. "The Tories lost power shortly after [Kennedy's assassination] so in both the USA and UK there were profound changes..."



Good catch about the sister's pregnancy. Until I read your post, I had also believed the baby was Peggy's. I did some digging afterward and only then discovered many other people were much more observant like you!
 
They did "do it" - we saw them in bed together, Peggy looking not too happy afterwarRAB and Dork asking her if she felt different.

It did make me laugh when Dork was trying to persuade Peggy by telling her all about the Swedes - as I remembered Peggy's mum's mistrust, even hatred of Swedes as their family was Norwegian.
 
i'm sure he meant homosexuals too. we may not see him interacting with gay men but he will definitely know about them and be prejudiced to them. this was the early 60s. look at how they treat women and black people.

one of the strengths is that you start to warm to the characters then something like this happens and it's a real slap in the face.

look at betty's appalling comment to her maid about civil rights..
 
Is the short romp that Alison and Don had on his couch an example of a new brand of fast-coupling that he has developed to suit any/every situation?;

1. Brand
McShag

2. Positioning
The quick form of coupling when time is short

3. Proposition
Try our drive through where all you have to do is make some subtle adjustment to clothing and get your Maccy Don's moment without disrupting your busy day.

4. Creative
Visual - Picture of Campbell and Peggy in their McShag moment in Series 1 at 7.00am one morning on his office couch. Add in both of them reading files over the other's shoulders as if they are still working.

Headline - When there's just no time even to undress.

5. Media
Life Magazine - twist arm of Peggy's new friend two floors above to persuade the Picture Editor to include the ad (as Art, of course)

6. Brand issues
Maybe the brand rationale is false? Could Don just be getting too drunk and too bored to be bothering with all that 4, or 3 play?

7. Actions
If yes to 6, create brand review committee. Alison to take minutes and organise therapy with NY shrink for Don.


PS Think I need to drag myself kicking and screaming out of the Mad men world and back into the real one:cry:
 
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