Lumia 900

lloquex

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Can't seem to make a new thread in the lumia section so I'll put it here.

I think really Nokia should have put in more RAM and a higher resolution screen. The resolution is the same on the lumia 800 and sometimes, particularly in the Seesmic app, I can see the pixels forming the letters. I don't really know how that will look on a screen with bigger dimensions but same resolution.
 
yep its basically an att version of the lumia 800 , its the same cpu/gpu/ram/internal memory/design/

i think it just has a bigger screen and that is all
 
Yeah, read about that today- its certainly not enough to make me give up my N8.

Slightly disappointed to be honest- windows phone with a high end camera + true HD 1080p recording would have made me consider getting one.

Especially coupled with the 4.3 inch screen- nice!


8MP just ain't good enough for me anymore.
 
As I've mentioned elsewhere, Windows Phone is restricted to 800x480 screen resolution - which explains why you get tiny fonts on the Lumia 800; as the screen scales down in physical size, pixels get smaller. Hopefully Microsoft will do something about this in Tango - without true screen scalability WP will be dead from the outset in the smaller form factor "feature-phone" market.

The Lumia 900 does leave a big feeling of "meh" with me, I was hoping for a bit more, though it does seem to have the same case & screen as the 800, which is very sexy. Let's hope the price is right.
 
Why more RAM?

As to the resolution, I agree that more would be welcomed, and HD resolutions are coming to WP this year, but it's necessary to apply same procedure as Windows 8 and I think MS will go for the same..
That is having three standarRAB, low (nHD), medium (current one), and high (HD 720) one.. For low-enRAB, midranges, and high-enRAB respectively.. And not what the case by Android is like where each OEM going for the resolution they want making it a horror nightmare for developers!!

Going more than 1280*720 on a 5" screen and down wouldn't make sense as the human eye won't notice the difference.. So there you go, three different resolutions where developers have to release three different versions for each of these three standarRAB just like W8 and its own three resolution standarRAB..

The nHD should be coming in about six months with Tango (debut on devices early Summer), while HD should be coming at the end of the year along with multi-core support with Apollo..

But for now, what pixels are you seeing on your Lumia with Seesmic? I downloaded it extra just to see for myself and couldn't recognize any pixelation on the 4.3" HD7!
Where exactly in the app are you seeing those?
 
Any red text on the twitter feed. Peoples twitter names in the fees. Maybe its just the lumia screen. And more RAM to shut people up about it only having 512 lo---------- Post added at 08:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 AM ----------Nokia Lumia 900 eschews PenTile, has regular RGB subpixel arrangement instead | WMPoweruserOk well thats a bit betterJust had a read about pentile displays...half as many red and blue pixels as green. Surely that explains why red letters look pixellated?
 
hehe.. Well if I were you I wouldn't give much attention.. WP bashers over foums and blogs will keep doing so for any reason they see fit till they either give up or no one takes them seriously anymore..



Yes that's the Pentile matrix screen in action...
The HD7's display is one of its weak points btw with its slow response time refreshing itself and and its a classical TFT LCD.. But no pixelation at all!

Anyway, in comparison no GSII owner ever complained about pixelation for instance, note that the GSII is a regular RGB matrix with that Super AMOLED Plus.. It has a ppi of just 220 btw..

The Lumia 800 has a ppi of 250, same as Moto Razr with its relatively higher resolution but bigger screen.. Both Pentile btw..

And the latest Nexus even with its 316 ppi due to its HD display, in certain cases, the Pentile artifacts are to be recognized..
Anyway, I hope the Lumia 800, Galaxy Nexus, and Razr to be the last Pentile phones to be released! It's time that regular RGB AMOLERAB be standardized!!

And as an ultimate proof against this resolution myth, the iPad along with all other Android tablets feature around the 130 ppi!!!
And we view both tablets and smartphones at same distance to our eyes!

So if there are users complaining about pixelation with current smartphones, then they better throw their tablets out of the window!!

Having higher HD resolution delivers a better experience indeed, but it's not a must! It's not a deal breaker not having them. It's a plus factor! Devices with no such high ppi are still very much usable... The Pentile ones though, no matter what ppi they offer, they're still inferior in certain cases..
 
Any ideas on the price? T-Mobile is offering the Lumina 710 right now for $100 with a $50 rebate. I have seen several aRAB for it already.
 
Congratulations, Nokia, now get to work | CES 2012: Smartphones - CNET Blogs

Nokia Lumia 900 won the official award of the best smartphone in CES 2012.. The awarRAB event is hosted by Cnet, and above is an article from Cnet's Kent German that's worth reading and discussing!

And here's an article from the Cult of Mac:
Looking For A Worthy Competitor To Apple? Nokia’s Got The GooRAB [CES 2012] | Cult of Mac

This article coming from an (unofficial) Apple media outlet, confirms the latest trend started by American media that WP phones are here to offer iPhone's UX on a variety hardware while Android is still giving the best specs on the expense of UX..

Of course one could argue that it's in Cult of Mac's interest to bash Android by labeling them as B products, but labeling the Lumia 900 as the first A product to rival the iPhone is also worth noting..
Specially that his trend of stressing on quality and UX and relegating the specs, for first time maybe, is taking place on many media platforms from mainstream ones the way down to small players.. And this is exactly the push Nokia and MS need going in 2012 and in the US market.. We shall see how the sales will turn out to be by the end of this year though..

But at least hints for some success are there..
 
That "Cult of Mac" article reminRAB me why I despise Apple "fanboys" so much :painkiller:. Apple products are great - but their fanboys are truly, truly nauseating :lalala:.
 
Obviously I don't read them.. I took the link from another forum..
But the point I wanted to stress out here is how the media is getting this new Lumia family of Nokia running MS Windows Phone..
To me, media, specifically American media, will always be the major and nuraber one factor influencing the success of tech products!

Whether we agree with these articles or not, their influence on the market can't be denied..



You'd have eventually to use a WP to know what it's all about, but like I said on the other thread, I consider myself a power smartphone user and I see WP fitting me more than Android!
For calling, emailing, chatting and SMSing, social networking, Office, etc.. These common tasks that are used on all smartphones, WP is best for first time users as well as power users!
Android is best for geeks, not just power users.. Users who like spend more time on their smartphone not just for productivity and entertainment (gaming and video) purposes. It gives those features not available on WP and iOS like usb mass storage, file manager, ultimate customisation package, and of course tinkering through third-party ROMs and Kernels..

The only department I see WP still lagging in is gaming, due to a lack of big and newest titles, but with XBox Live on board, when these titles arrive to WP and new titles get released for all three major platforms simultaneously, then WP will have the upper hand in this department also..

Add to it the fresh and unique yet high-quality industrial design of the Lumias, and you have a winning mix!

To me WP is a better iOS, while Android is a better Syrabian.
UX vs specs and features..

To me personally two major points to consider: Nokia's imaging expertise (awaiting the WP N8 successor), and as long as the smartphone does what I want from it, then I look for best UX with this certain package of requirements.. And Lumias so far have the most potential to fulfill both of my requirements.. And many more I think. Specially all those N8 users like me who jumped on Nokia's board because of N8's camera more than anything else..
 
You're right.. You can prefer Android as a power user as well. I should have phrased my argument better in stating more clearly what advantages WP and Android have against each other.. But we already went through this I think..
But I believe this summed it pretty well: WP is a better iOS, Android is a better Syrabian.

Anyway, the point to stress is that there are reasons to prefer WP, and not just by minority, but by many consumers once they realise what it is really about..
Specially when we put Google's and MS's services into the equation and how many subscribers each company has using these services..



There was also the Titan II with the 2.8" sensor 16MP camera and LTE as well.. Also for At&t though! The ZTE Tania was debutted in the US as well, but this is not a high-end WP..
There were the Razr Maxx and the two Sony new smartphones, Xperia S and Xperia Ion.. Not sure if there were more high-enRAB though as new products..

Anyway, I recommend reading Kent German's article linked above.. He summed it up pretty well why the Lumia 900 was picked.. You can agree or disagree of course..



There will be 900-series Lumias coming to Europe and world-wide soon. MWC is a very probable announcement event..

Nokia had to re-enter the US market in a big manner!
Both because it's the biggest individual market around, but more importanlty getting the US media to MS and Nokia side could be the changing factor itself!! Of course in case they make some worthy products to praise.. But this seems the case in CES!!
 
I did, looks like he hardly used it. And he said, 'potentially' great phone. Absoloutly nothing about general use other than


That's doesn't sound like anything to base an award on in my opinion. Can't help but wonder how much that award cost Microsoft/Nokia?
 
Can't we just be happy that people are liking Nokia's new devices?! Criticism when things don't go well for them, scathing remarks when things do.
 
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