Lumia 800 - Good and Bad

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Jack Nesky

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First I must say that I like my new Lumia and it seems interesting. I have tested it only a little time but I have some notions. The reason for some of them might be that I don't know my Lumia very well yet.

Good:
* Quite easy to use
* SkyDrive and Office are very useful

Bad:
* No connection to my computer (Windows!)
* Nokia Suite recognizes my Lumia but cannot make connection to it
* Nokia Drive seems to be quite limited compared to the older Nokia phones

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
For me it seems that Zune is meant for music, videos and images. I'd like to synchronize work and other information with my computer and Lumia. This was possible with N97 and other Nokia phones. It was easy to make notes in Outlook and synchronize them with Outlook calendar.

I know that I can do something like that with the SkyDrive. Put the problem is that when I'm abroad I don't want to use expensive Internet connection there. Anyway Nokia Suite was useful and it had meny practical functions.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
apparently theyare building a new nokia/microsoft suite for syncing etc hopefully we see some release soon even if its an early version for end users
 
You need a hotmail account activated on the phone, then everything syncs itself (calendar, notes, contacts etc.) Documents, photos etc. can be synced via Zune or using office - one note is exceptionaly good.

Barrie
 
I'd like to be one of your Nokia/Microsoft suite testers. I'm testing also Windows 8 and Panda Cloud Office Beta.

Barrie, I have Hotmail/Live account on my phone. What should sync itself, Outlook - Lumia?

And sorry all about my worRAB Good and Bad. In the future I will use only the worRAB Good and Could be better or something like that.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
All MS services will sync automatically each time you connect your phone to the PC though Zune.. Note that you could also connect wirelessly through your home Wlan..

And check out this webpage: https://www.windowsphone.com/en-GB/my

Log in with your Live account, and discover for yourelf.. :)



Nothing wrong in constructive critism.. On the contrary it is much needed specially that WP is just one year old and has some improvements to go through still..
You can also send all your feedbacks directly to MS..
 
I usually have distance work (working at home (near work?)) but today I was in my workplace and couldn't see this discussion. Anyway could you explain what you mean with "MS". For me it's Microsoft. I almost can't wait that Outlook and Lumia work together.

Good

When someone calls me I have to slide up before I can answer. With N7 I sometimes slide "Don't answer" when I take the phone from my pocket

Could be better

* I miss profiles
* I hope I could see my Lumia in my computer like I see my N97 etc. (as directories)
* I'd like to make notes with my Lumia wihout connecting Internet for instance abroad

By the way where in My Nokia? When I try to go to that page it turns me to Nokia's main page. The page https://www.windowsphone.com/en-GB/my seems to be like that but I cannot increase the my other phones.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
This will never happen.. Not without a hack..



What do you mean exactly? Make notes and sync them to PC?



No more such Nokia services.. It's all about Microsoft's Windows Live now.. The link you have and Zune software are all you have to manage your account and syncing..

MS are working on new syncing software and solutions coming at the end of this year.. So there is something to look forward to in case current solutions don't meet your neeRAB..

Regarding Outlook, it should work as well.. I use Windows Live Mail and it also syncs automatically.. But there were some problems with Outlook 2003 before, should be resolved by now, you have to check though if you use the 2003 version..
 
Thank you again.

With notes in Lumia I mean something like "Memorybook" (or whatever it is in English, I'm in Finland) like in N97. There is no need to sync it. For instance when my wife calls me and asks me to get this and that before I come home, I used N97's "memorybook". Naturally when I can sync my Lumia with Outlook in the future, this will do.

I have Outlook 2010. What's the situation with that?

Could be better

The battery should last longer. Yesterday evening I loaded it full and in the middle of the day it was empty. I didn't have Bluetooth or WLAN in use, no phone calls.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
Do you mean notes attached/linked to contancts or just a simple app for handling rapid temp notes?

There is the popular MS OneNote built in the phone and part of the Office hub.. It syncs to Skydrive and PC automatically as well..
And there are endless free and practical apps found in the Marketplace..



Ok, I have to apologize here as I provided some inaccurate info about Outlook!!
For some reason I was under the impression that Outlook wasn't supported at all in the beginning but everything's ok now. It turned out to be that Outlook is still left behind by MS to be the sole exception within MS services treated that way!! And I think for a reason as well (although the wrong reason this time!)

In brief: You can sync Outlooks contacts and emails, but not task and notes.. In general there is no direct way to sync Outlook!
Here two links of interest:
How to Sync Windows Phone 7 with Outlook
Does Windows Phone 7 sync to Outlook? - Microsoft Answers

With the coming syncing solution with WP8 I think all this stuff should be resolved..
But the general take on this is that MS are pushing for their Cloud solution, and Office 365 is part of that..
They're somehow pushing customers to sync Outlook with Office 365 and tackle everything on the Cloud from there on.. A stupid move to be honest, as first many enterprises don't allow Cloud services yet, and also for a smartphone Clouding is not yet the ideal solution considering data limits and costs!!

For me, Windows Live Mail does the job well.. But I know for some such light solutions aren't enough and hence the need for Outlook and reason for Outlook's existence in the first place! A stupid move from MS no doubt about it! And this has been even a deal breaker for many previous WM users btw, who had to upgrade to non-Windows phones!

For now, there is Office 365, and there are other apps for tasks/notes/appointments including Windows Live Calender (not for notes) of course..



There is a whole thread tackling the battery issue of the Lumia.. It's just few entries down in this sub-section..

In brief, some Lumia variants had battery usage problems, Nokia released an update which resolved that but just to trigger another battery problems in hanRABets which had none before the update!
If yours is empty in just half a day with minimal usage, then most probably you're affected..
Check if there is any recent update for your phone through Zune, and apply it if any..

If you're uptodate, I don't think there is much you can do about it other than hit a NCP and try to get a replacement from them..
 
Yes, jus rapid notes, not necessary temporay. There are things I'm not allowed to put in the cloud and as I wrote before it is quite expensive abroad. I'll go to the Marketplace, maybe I find something.



No problem, I can still use my Nokia97 to sync with Outlook so far.



I tried to update my Lumia 800 but no updates were available.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
OneNote doesn't need Skydrive.. You can make notes and save them on your phone normally.. No need to sync them to the Cloud.. Even if there is an Internet connection running.. Same thing regarding tasks and appointments in the Calender..

There is of coruse Evernote if you need something fully featured and professional..
There are also light apps like Tiled Notes which can stick notes to live tiles on the home screen..



What's the firmware's version you're on?
 
I installed Notepad and it seems to be OK. I can even send it as e-mail or SMS.

OS version is 7.10.8107.79, software version 1600.2483.8107.11501, equipment version 112.1402.2.4

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
Yeah that's the latest update.. Regarding the battery better to check the "issues" thread in this section as well as the links posted there, and also you could check by a NCP to see what they could offer..

And thanks for that app hint.. I just checked it and it's really one great app!
 
I had the same problem after updating to the latest software. Battery lasted less than 12 hours with hardly any use. Was ok before the update.

So I went back to the previous version (via Zune) and re installed the latest software and the problem went away. Might be worth trying.

Nasib
 
As an FYI, and right off-topic, but Microsoft released OneNote for Android last week, other apps to follow. Usual Microsoft bloat of course, but hopefully it'll get streamlined over time.
 
Sorry but my mother language is not English. As if I understand bloat meand too much filled or something like that. For me OneNote very usefull (full of use). For instance when I'm abroad I don't use my Lumia but use my computer in hotel's WLAn or in Internet cafe to see my notes.

B.R. Nikomakhos
 
On the weekend I tested my Lumia's battery. I loaded it full on Friday 9 PM and it was almost empty on Sunday 9 AM. No calls only a two times Bluetooth was on when I used heaRABet in my car. So the battery lasted about 36 hours. On Sunday I loaded the battery full again at noon (12) and it was empty on Monday 9 AM. No calls, I used the alarm clock in the morning. Battery lasted 21 hours. Not yet new programs that would use Internet connections. The battery times are quite far from the promised 335 hours.
 
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