Lord of the Rings vs. Harry Potter!!!

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wow...it's been awfully quiet in this thread...lets purk things up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!for...for those, like everyone else, who's been reading and finishing HP-HBP over the 5 day period, any initial thoughts or random feelings that you'd like to share? Don't be shy...lol...personally, i felt that the first 15 chapter were irrelevant to the overall story plot. the ending also rushed but I enjoyed the way it ended. It was mysterious and 'unfinished' in a sense. can't wait till the 4th movie comes out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
ok guys...I know you've probably seen enough polls similiar to this one...but...I just thought it would be cool to do another one... :rolleyes: ...lol...thanks for your cooperation!!! So...give me your opinions towarRAB LOTR and HP...make sure to talk both about the books and movies. Please do not use colourful languages (swear worRAB). I want a clean debate!!!...thanks again!!! :xangel:
 
exactly my point of view....about the whole point system...=="...so...u a fan of HP??? I don't want to spoil the book for u but I could tell u that one of the person u've guessed is the HBP...^__^y...enjoy the book!
 
Just finished the half blood prince and all I can say is what a twist. I guess JK did have to remove Harrys last crutch if he is to rid the world of Voldemort. WOW would never had guessed that twist :xgood:
 
Very disapointing.What happens in the first 500 pages will somebody tell me?No attacks,no killings,no war nothing but a very weak attempt at a romantic triplet with the Granger/Ron/Lavender story.Rowling does fights and adventure best clearly not romance.There is seemingly a war going on outside of Hogwarts but we here nothing about it.No Voldemort,very few encouters with Death Eaters/Order of the Phoenix,nothing about that veil Surius fell into in book 5.Its badly paced and besides the first couple of chapters and the pensieve everything up to the cave chapter is forgettable.When it does get interesting with a nice end twist Rowling writes too little.The worst since the Philsophers Stone i think.
 
Wow...i completly agree with your point of view. You've just read my mind. The first 20 chapters were irrelevant to the overall main plot of the story...which only took up about 5 chapter of the entire 30 chapter book! And the ending (interesting part) was rushed like crazy...if JK Rowling want to keep her fans, she better change her pace in plots and 'wow' us in the last book of the serie! My expectations are extremely high for her! I hope she doesn't disappoint me again!
p.s. I did, however, enjoy the ending of the book. Nicely ended! I give JK Rowling that credit~!
 
When you read through LOTR though you just know Gandalf is still alive.You just know straight away when he goes down the chasm.I can't say the same for Dumbledore.

Shire-Rowling has my respect big time for killing off Dumbledore.Brave move.Saved the book i think.
 
both movies/books possess similiar content (character especially)...I know I don't have to list them all out for you...you can probably guess my examples...ok..this is only my opinion but I really think JK Rowling copied some of JRR Tolkeins original ideas. :mad: That detests me a lot...I could be wrong but I think a lot of people would agree with me on that point.
 
cool...i certainly hope that JK Rolwing doesn't pull a Tolkin trick...tat would be really lame and pathetic. I think that Dumbledore is gone for good but i have a feeling that his spirites will be helping Harry to kill off Voldemort in the final book of the serie.
 
okok...so...let's have a more specific comparison between LOTR and HP..so, here goes:

1) Harry Potter or Frodo Baggins
2) Dumbledor or Gandalf
3) Sirus Black or Aragorn

note: when replying, please keep answer in the same numeric order. I will tally up the votes when one wins by 3 votes. :) ...also...please state the reason of your choices. Thanks

My answers:
1) Frodo Baggins- smarter, braver, hero of the world (not for fame though), awsome actor (movie)
2) Dandalf- wiser, better actor (movie)
3) Aragorn- better actor (movie), cooler, braver, wasn't in jail :rolleyes:
 
Remember that Dumbledore said he completly trusted Snape, so whose to say that the Dumbledore didn't forsee something and set something up with Snape. He knew what Draco was planning so I think he may have taken precautions. Also Snapes not allowing Harry to use the unforgivable curses. What better way to throw Voldemort off if he thinks Dumbledore is dead.
 
Well the LotR books are overly long, tedious to read more than three times and way too full of big over-described battles. There again the LotR is a far more detailed plot with less 2D stereotyped characterisation. The LotR films are far superior too. So I conclude that LotR is the better. Neither come even close to most Pratchet books and the Magician/ Servant of the Empire stories though.
 
I will take them as seperate issuse.

Harry potter book vs movie.
The book was great a fast very interesting read. The fist 2 movies were 99% in line with the books. There were several admissons and a few restaging of events but in a character said something in the book they said the samething in the movie very good translation to the screen. The 3rd book, while 80% true to the book, still the characters still had their ownlines from book to movie. The only very blaring rewrite was at the end of the 3rd movie when Harry gets is new firebolt and any one who read the books knows that the firebolt is a gift that should have come in the middle of the film soon after Harrys nimbus is broken.
The 4th and 5th movies that are upcomming I think will be the worst for ommisions due to the length of the book vs filmable movie time.


I really don't mind ommisions in book vs movie it is the rewites that I hate. I really don't mind adding something to the movie that wasn't in the if it is seculation on what characters out of the witing might be doing as the main writing is taking place.

The 3 recient LOR movies were aboinations. The first one is allright it is about 75% true to the book. I can watch this one with only an occsional crap being yelled at the screen. The rewriting was that bad only a few characters had other characters lines and sceens. The other 2 movies well let's just say the characters and some of the dialoge was written by JRRTolkien but not the rest. TT and ROTK were 15%, and thats a little high, true to the books. The rewriting and recharacteriztion is extreamly bad in both movies.I can't even watch them. An example of recharacteriztion would be Faramir's character. Faramir in the book is the noblist character in the book he doesn't have a struggle with the ring, he doesn't treat the hobbits like orcs, and he is not the sniveling little " I need daddies approval" type. Denethors death is another sore point. In the book Denethor jumps on the funeral pyre with the palantier in his lap and burns to death. Gandalf does not attack him. Gandalf does not fight him and knock him off a cliff.
I could go on and on the movie is a very beautiful and well filmed but the books and the movie must stand apart for neither is the other. If I had never read the books I would think the movies were great.
 
hum...good point...i'm totally messed up right now so i can't really think clearly...lol... :p ...so..who do u think is gonna die in the last book??? i was thinking like Harry, when he kills Voldemort...Snape when he tries to protect Harry.
 
I agree with what you've said about the fact of staying true to the book...but only to a certain extent......I believe that it is still an awsome movie even if it does not completely stay true to the book. and anyways, the LOTR is too detailed to be made exactly into a movie...it would last like 5 hours!!! I love the way Peter Jackson interpreted the book and made the movie more moving and intense in a way. These are just my thoughts :p
 
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