Let's have a debate about illegal immigratns..!!?

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I'm having a debate in english class about illegal immigrants and i thought i should get real infos from the people rather than "online resources" :] so..here it goes!

I'm suppose to protect or persuade the "anti-illegal immigrants" to become a "pro-illegal immigrants" by showing/telling them FACT infos about how our economy can change without them and all the other stuff.

it can be anything about illegal immigratns starting from..their job..how they are treated..racism..health care..U.S economy.

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FACT. 80% of illegal aliens are from Mexico, only 7 % come from non Hispanic countries. This was the official figures for 2006 so might have changed a bit, although not as much as to say 40% of illegal aliens are not from Hispanic countries.

Truth giver has no clue what he is talking about. Everyone in America was once an immigrant.

Since everyone arrived before boarders were formed there was not immigration only migration.

Stating that Mexico once owned large areas of the USA is correct but Italy once own large parts of Europe. I don't see the Italians, who didn't sell the land, moaning about how they have a right to bypass immigration.

Stating that the land was once stolen doesn't make it true. Reread that history book. Mexico rebelled against Spanish rule, and then the poor leadership lead to both California and Texas rebellion. California failed but Texas became an independent country. Texas then joined the USA and Mexico declared war on the USA by attacking American troops in Texas. The USA defeated Mexico and bought the required land off Mexico and also agreed to pay any debt that the Mexican government had with people in regards to these lands.

Most Mexicans are of Spanish decent so are in fact just as European as there northern neighbours.

Illegal aliens do not help the economy, lowing wages, higher unskilled population, non payment of taxes, no insurance mean unpaid medical bills.

It takes 10 days to process a H2B visa.

It costs less to get to the USA legally (average costs $1500) than illegally (average costs $2300)

Do you really want people who disregard the law into the country.

No control over people entering, meaning Murders, Rapists, serious and violent crime can cross undetected.

The problem is that the Mexican constitution states that Mexicans have the right to travel without hindrance. The USA government having an immigration policy is against the Mexican rights, look how different Mexico treats its north and south.

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truth giver - I'm going to put this easily. No land was ever stole, if you have proof I would love to see it. People can live happily together as long as they follow the law.

If we follow your idea and you really wanted to go back far enought then everyone should only be allowed to live in Africa. It sounds silly that one group of migrants have a right of another because they were here first. Whites made it to America before blacks do you believe that whites should have more rights than blacks? I hope you see the stupidity of that argument.

There are a few flaws to your idea.

1 - The areas of USA that was once under mexican control were occupied by a different race of people. Native people from the mexican region rarely mixed with native people from the north.

2 - Most people living in the northern terrorties were Europeans in 1821 - 1845.

3 - In 1845 there was no organised head of the Aztecs.

4 - Currently only 12% of Mexicans are from pure native background. That puts the amount of illegal aliens as being mainly from European background (removes your argument about natives have right of the land).

5 - The area of land was still under mexican control of Mexico after the war of 1845 had finish, except Texas which had declared indipendance in 1836.

6 - The Mexican president, who had been voted in by Mexican people, sold the land to pay of debts and part of the peace agreement.

I could go on about this and the history is interesting but I'm sure you are looking up my points.
 
illegals are not immigrants. they don't pay taxes, we educate their kids with our tax dollars. we pay for their medical. an illegal mother can walk in to a welfare office with a United States born baby and get welfare. while Americans who pay taxes can't get any help. old people who work all their life's are treated wrong, but when an illegal comes in they get help. there is nothing you can show me that will change my mind about illegals. they live 10 to 20 in a 2 bed room house. they are popping baby's out. our world is already over populated.did you know milk went up because it is on demand world wide? if illegals was not here united states citizens that are homeless can get a job and earn a decent wage. illegals are not helping us, they are hurting us. they are a part of the reason the united states is in a recession. next we will go through a depression. we had a mass deportation once, we can do it again. we're already paying for illegals to live off our system. we can pay to have them deported. my ancestors did not fight in wars and break their backs for this country for nothing. the ones who built this country was the Black slaves, American Indians and the Whites. these 3 groups of people have come a long way to get a long. we don't need illegals coming in here and screwing things up for us. if they can't come legally we don't need them. we don't want them here. that goes for any illegal from where ever they come from.
 
The only argument for illegal immigration is their already here. They work live and contribute to the economy as any sensible person can see. No one can come here legally or illegally and not contribute in some way to the economy. Ppl need housing clothing and food that's a simple fact. Whether or not they contribute in more positives then negatives is dependant on the person. Some citizens don't exactly contribute in more postives either. Such as a drug dealer. We have millions of illegals here. Millions in the workforce that we've integrated into our economy and lives over the years. To suddenly throw every one of these ppl out of the country would upset the balance whether some fools see this or not. A lot of ppl like to disregard the FACT that 40% of illegals are visa overstays from predominately white countries. So no they don't notice Mary Poppins vs Maria Juarez as much cause obviously good ole Mary can't be illegal. Does that spoonful of sugar help the medicine go down better for you? Probably for some ppl but not for someone who hates lawbreakers regardless of whether they have made the medicine go down in the most delightful way.
 
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