Legacy programming price increase - Effective April 30th

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hmmmm...how did your basic plus one theme pack amount to $27?

Digital Standard on its own was $27, without a theme pack...are you purposely leaving the price of the theme pack to exaggerate the price difference?

so lets look at BEV Digital Standard plus one theme at $39 for comparison.

StarChoice Bronze package plus one theme is $39.

Rogers basic cable varies between $35-$43 depending on where you live and gives you nowhere near as many channels.
 
These providers ALL require a commitment of 12-24 months dependant on what you sign up for, and they will try to sign you up for the longest term possible.
It's only when you go with basic service that you are not required to have an agreement.

Nem, who likes to clarify with the proper answer.

Bull. For a person who also has Shaw thats bull. I hate Shaw but what you are saying is incorrect.

If I am wrong show me a link please? I can't speak for Rogers.

I have Basic, Tier 1-3(i get this free though-mistake by them), and DIGITAL cable(i HAVE to sub to Adult channels because BEV REFUSES to add anymore except for playSOFTCOREboy). I admit AOV is a start but still way behind.

I am under no contract and I have never been. Been subbing for 15 years with my cable company(Shaw was here then Rogers took over for 1-2 years and its Shaw again):mad:...I have cancelled many times due to the fact they have great offers for "new customers". Every 90 days they CONSIDER ME A NEW CUSTOMER.
 
It wasn't that long ago that Basics were less than $20. Then the MRF and System fee were added. Then the basics package was jacked up in price. I would guess that the $27 price is a grandfathered package with MRF and SF on top. Now EV wants legacy customers to pay the same base price as Genesis customers plus $9 in MRF and SF (for fewer channels as well.) Sigh. Life ain't fair. :(
 
^ no customer is going to get hit with an $11 increase...the recent $4 increase was for customers on Genesis programming, and the upcoming $5 increase is for customers on Legacy programming...Legacy programming customers, as of April 30th, will only have had a about $8 in price increases over the last 5 years...that isn't unreasonable.
 
That would be a private matter between Bell ExpressVu and each HD programmer (like HDNet). Every deal is different but, generally, there are three kinds of deals:

1) a flat fee -- say $1m per year -- and Bell can charge whatever it wants and make as much as it wants/can

2) a straight revenue share -- like 50% of the gross -- where if Bell charges the customers $1m during the course of the year, it pays $500,000 to the programmer

3) XX cents per subscriber -- like $0.75/mth/sub -- and Bell can charge whatever it wants/can

Contracts get renewed from time-to-time as well, so a sweet early deal can get jacked up if very lucrative down the road. I suspect Bell has some sort of "sweet deal" arrangement with High Fidelity (Equator, Rush, Treasure, Oasis) since HF uses Bell facilities to produce its signal and there is no evidence that there are significant ratings for these channels -- certainly not enough to justify giving HF about 10% of total HD bandwidth.
 
I think I'm pretty clear in saying "Hypothetically"? The increases seem to have been more than annually though. I could check how many increases I have had since becoming a customer as I keep all my paperwork;) I'm just trying to drive home the absurdity of the possibility of receiving such a letter and how it would likely go over for anyone receiving such a letter. You and I have discussed this before in another thread so you know my figures aren't inflated and now others in the same boat as me are showing up in this thread.
 
If you look at the agreement, it is written that a system charge MAY be applied.

By the way, the clients that are "locked" in contracts cannot get ANY increase in their prices whatsoever, unless they downgrade.
 
^ wow, that could be a deal-breaker for me. Even Rogers is currently offering 100 Gig cap on their $44.95 package. Thanks for the tip on techsavvy, tho '
 
i see people in here screaming murder, but it isn't that bad...the "newer" customers just got a price increase of $4, which legacy customers weren't affected by, so it isn't that big of a deal, simply keeping the price increases across all platforms...that makes sense.


not sure about that one...i know there will be some people that will be upset about it, and perhaps its those people BEV is prepared to lose (some of them anyway).

that sounds like good news for those who currently would be forced to switch their packages with any changes...sure they get hit with the price increase, but so did everyone else...at least this way they can still keep their old package and still make changes...that seems like good news to me.

of course, as the OP stated, this is all just speculation, so some of it, or all of it may never actually happen...it's good to discuss, but i hope people don't get their panty's in a knot about "rumours".
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Bell in general will be moving prices up, including all of their affiliates there will be 27 price increases in total in 2007.
 
I'd say (1) and (3) are 99% sure because they are teaching these policies to the new reps who will go online soon. (2) has been speculated for a very long time - some accounts have memos dating back from 2005, asking the reps to ask the customer to switch over to Genesis because the programming "may" be enabled soon, so I really don't know when it will happen, if it will.

One precision on the Legacy programming changes: no downgrades will be allowed.
 
Being on Super 7 plus HD, time to downgrade to minimum HD and a couple of bundles. It'll be cheaper for me. I'll get more HD channels back and lose about 50% of my current SD channels. However since there is only about a handful we actually watch.....
 
Techsavvy just had their network upgraded at the back end and I understand their customers are more satisfied with their service now (increased speeds). By the way many ISPs including Techsavvy use the same Bell Internet network.

John
 
Typical corporate mentality. Can't fix your own problems so make the consumer pay more and more and more... but the CEO always gets a huge bonus for screwing everyone under his pile of $#!^.
 
I wasn't talking about my situation. There are lots of subs who have only an HD receiver. Why should they pay for US SD nets as part of Digital Essentials?

IMHO, a lot of the duplicated networks could be taken out of digital essentials. Many of the network stations have little or no local programming and what is left is dwindling constantly. They are just taking up space that could be used by specialty stations (with unique programming) that are currently missing from EV.
 
even though rogers is 100GB on the higher speed tiers, they are also doing a lot of traffic shaping and port throttling...so, you can keep your speed but have a cap (bell), or get more bandwidth, but at dial up speeds if you are using apps that are targetted (mainly BT and P2P).
 
Yeah that could be me.... I guess I'll enjoy it while it lasts...

thanks for the perspective, dj !
 
Actually the package I have was introduced in 1998/99. So figure out which it was...

And, yes, with the programming, system fee & taxes I pay $64 and my account has been active for more than eight years on the same package.
 
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