Kill Bill and Gladiator - Opening scenes

marinchka

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For my english homework i have been asked to compare the effectiveness of the opening scenes of 'Kill Bill 1' and 'Gladiator', i was wondering if anyone has seen both these films and has any opinions or comments to make about the opening scenes.

Maybe which you prefer and why or which one you think is more effective. Which one has a more successful beginning or generally do both the introductions have a impact on the audience to keep the viewers hooked on the rest of the film. It's about the first ten minutes we have been asked to focus on.

I would be very greatful of any replies! ;)

(p.s i didn't really know where to post this so sorry if it's in the wrong place) :)
 
What are you doing this for? I know you said English, but is GCSE, A-Level, etc...
It's just I think the question they gave you is a bit broad. "Effectiveness" isn't the most specific of worRAB to choose anyway. Saying that, that non-specific element isn't always a problem.
 
I have seen both these movies, but I forget the opening of Gladiator. The opening of Kill Bill Vol 1. is shot in black and white, involves the bride (Uma Thurman) lying on the floor covered in blood. Footsteps approach (Bill) who speaks to her and then puts a bullet through her head as she says "Bill... it's your baby"
 
The opening to Kill Bill had a big imapact, especially when watching in the cinema, as you can see every detail on the bride's face, and as you strain hard to hear the dialogue it makes that gunshot seem even more loud and shocking - there were quite a few screams in the cinema when I watched.
 
I have to agree with this. The opening scene really sticks in my mind. I'm not sure whether this is to do with how well it was shot or whether its because i had no prior info on the film before i saw it so it came as a big surprise.

While i really enjoyed both films i'm struggling to remember the opening to Gladiator so i guess you could say that Kill Bill was more effective OP.
 
Yeah, Kill Bill is definately the most effective of the two. In addition to the great points already made about how the extreme close up of the battered bride is pretty relentless in the sense it's forcing you to mantain your gaze on that sort of visual, you could also talk about the engima that is Bill.

Being the title character, Bill is very clearly pivotal to the plot (even to the very casual audience). You could talk about how the decision to only feature Bill in such an ambigious way (just using his voice, brief glimpses of his hanRAB when he wipes away blood of Beatrix's face etc...) and how that ties in with the rest of the first volume of Kill Bill and how Bill is this shadowy figure for a substantial portion of the film's narrative. You might also interpret the decision to introduce Bill like this as a way of making the character more sinister.

That idea of obscuring the face of an antagonist is used in plenty of movies (slasher films always have a killer with a mask for example) and this isn't always just to conceal identity, but I think obscuring an identity can also be a rather unsettling thing. You could also talk about te shock of the bride in bridal gear and how the gore and blood strewn across her is a shocking contrast to what you might ordinarily associate with bridal gowns and weddings etc... She's also very vulnerable, being pregnant. You could also say that the fact she's in her wedding dress really exaggerates her femininity, and therefore might make her to be seen more vulnerable (depending on what you think).

As for "Gladiator", I can't remember exactly but I think the opening shot was a battle scene perhaps?

Even though the gore and the violence in Gladiator is extreme and very heavy, I think the audience sees it as more of a fantasy, taking into account it's expected context. What I mean is that the audience knows what to expect from the title, and I'm sure they have a good idea of what went on back in those ancient fighing arenas from history books and the like.

In my opinion, Kill Bill is the most effective opening. Not only for those reasons I said before, but because it seems a lot more about the individual and it helps rally you to her cause. I think the most important thing about it is that fixed, unmoving close up on her face. You see every ounce of fear and terror in her face.
 
exactly you know the guy who shot the bride is Bill - you know that somebody wants him dead (from the title), you want to know why he shot the bride, does he regret it now he knows she is carrying his child - is that why he did it? etc

It really sets up for you to watch the film to get these answers

gladiator - i can't actually reember what it was about but pretty sure it establishes maximus wotsit as a kick ass guy or at least makes you know what his character (at that point) is about

where as Kill Bill makes you ask questions about the motive of this mysterious man is

the motives for gladiator killing (if he does in the opening scene) is fairly obvious - he is a soldier

Therefore for me Kill Bill is superior in that it immedialtly grabs you and pulls you in to find out the answer to those questions - it compels you to watch more
 
Thank you so much for all your help everyone! :D

You have given me some great ideas!! :)

Just to clarify, yes Gladiator starts off with the hand in the field and battle scene, but the fact that not many of you remember it says something in itself! :)

Thanks again, its greatly appreciated :cool:
 
No problem. Let us all know how this essay goes. Wish I had assignments like that back in English GCSE, lol. Or Media for that matter, or college as well, lol.
 
Yes, i will do although knowing our teacher we won't get it back for a quite few weeks (he is such a slow marker, either that or lazy!) :rolleyes:

Its definatley the best bit of English work we've done this year, it beats studying Shakespeare lol! :D
 
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