Thank's for replying Martin.
I didn't miss the point with the "Good God" comment. I was just using my silly reply as an indication that I'm not a troll trying to wind you or anyone up saying things just for effect or to start an argument.
I really don't take it that seriously. After all they're only films.
Just a correction from my last post. i said that Die Hard didn't have slow motion. I was wrong there was when Rickman fell at the end. I'm surprised you or someone didn't pick up on that one.
I spotted the mid-air reload and similar was in homage (or is that just stealing ideas) to films such as the John Woo ones. The problem is those kind of slow motion things now are getting used so often they go from being an homage to just being an over-used copy of an idea.
I won't go into details in case you or other people reading this haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet, but there is slow motion involving Mickey Rourke which is a shot that is also an over-used one. Unfortunately it looks really crap in the film. Not because I don't like it, but because it looks obviously computer generated...poorly.
I do take your point about labelling all martial arts films in such a general way.
The problem I have with them covers two areas. If we take out any slowing down or speeding up effects.
1) The fights look fake.
The exertion used to fight like that means they would be dripping in sweat and exhausted within monutes yet they never seem to tire out often even breathing heavy. It's the equivienlt of the never emptying gun. The pistol holRAB 20 bullets but they manage to fire close to 50 (sometimes more) without reloading.
2) Polite violence.
This is the real main one for me. You have one person against 6 or more people. They take turns steping up to fight and get beaten up. We've all seen the footage of football hooligans or riots. That doesn't happen. When the boss says "get him/her" they would all go in together and beat the crap out of him.
They certainly wouldn't say to their comrade.
"After you, you were here first."
"No please you first, I have plenty of time."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes, please you go first."
I just can't get my head past how stupid that looks lining up to take your turn.
They're just as silly as the Adam West Batman series. You may as well as "KER-POW" to them. The difference is that show like the rest of the superhero stuff don't pretend that "it's real."
I also freely admit that I am prejudiced against the things because when I was at school the latest thing was Kung Fu, Enter the Dragon and Bruce Lee in general. At that time there was this story going around not only in the school but on TV and the papers that Bruce Lee's hanRAB are so fast he stopped (swatted) a bullet that was fired at him. Like hell he did. Even as a kid aged about 8 I knew that was bullshit. But people would reel off this cobblers as a fact. not because it was proven and they had seen it but because they believed the myth of martial arts being this great mystical way of fighting.
So between that cobblers, the obviously staged fake looking fights and especially the politeness of waiting your turn to get beaten up. I just can't be doing with martial arts films at all as they're ridiculous IMO. I'm more than happy to leave them for the people that do enjoy them and watch other stuff.