Kaoru or the original Buttercup?

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lisa8786

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Which one is better/cuter/cooler?

I think the anime Kaoru pwns 95% of all cartoon characters, not just the original Buttercup.

*this is not a point about anime and American animation and which is better so no flame wars*
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Kaoru is my favorite cartoon character right now. She's tough, cute, likes sport and she fights evil (although that last one isn't exclusive lol).

To answer to how I know you see, I watched it on tv when I was in Tokyo last week. It's true and if you don't believe it that's too bad. Hmm... come to think of it most of you wouldn't have a clue, so just give an answer based on the pictures above that shouldn't be too hard hmm?
 
You realize that many of us here have never seen Powerpuff Girls Z, so not only would they not be able to accurately judge, but several of them aren't even going to know what you're talking about, right? Not to mention that by saying the PPGZ version of Buttercup is unequivocally better, you're stating your opinion as fact, and expecting people to base their judgments solely on photographs is pretty silly, especially since we're just talking about 2 different variations of the same character.

This thread is pointless. A declaration of one's fandom doesn't warrant an entire discussion.
 
Jeez I said "I think" etc. and there isn't a 'desu ne?' in English...

If you disagree just say so. As for the 'topic being pointless', that's an objective statement ne?

I know there are posters from Japan on rabroad and if that doesn't apply to you don't discriminate and say it's pointless just because only those who are in Japan or have seen it on Japanese tv know about it, got it? Also you resent your choice to tell your opinion based on pictures, others may not, ne?
 
No need to get riled up over nothing. It just seems to me that a thread like this is too subjective for a legitimate discussion.

I admit I haven't been here that long, but I don't recall reading a lot of posts made by people from Japan. Since CN doesn't seem to have any plans to bring PPGZ to the West, I'd say it's a safe bet that many posters here haven't seen it.

And no one can make an accurate assessment of any character just by looking at pictures, not without seeing their body of work. If one saw a photo of Bugs Bunny without any preconceived knowledge of the character, they'd be likely to say, "It's a gray rabbit with gloves on; what's the big deal?"
 
I can't comment on which version of the character is better, since I only know of PPGZ and have never personally seen it. But from a design standpoint, both version of the character seem to fit their particular shows. It's not really a fair comparison, since U.S. Buttercup is 5-years-old and Kaoru is, what, 12?
 
Please.

Craig McCracken's Powerpuff Girls series is the original and still the best, no matter what kind of spin the Japanese are able to put on it.

And as harsh as this may sound, it's obvious to me that anyone who prefers the anime series is only doing so because of a bias towards anime in the first place.
 
I'm a big anime fan and all, but the original Buttercup wins over Kaoru easily.
PPGZ lacks the charm and humor of the original, despite Kaoru having a better appearance.

There's not really a difference between the characters as there is the show, Kaoru and Buttercup are practically the same. If you compared Momoko and Blossom, or Miyako and Bubbles, that might be more of an interesting debate, since they're quite different from each other's counterparts.

PPGZ is bland, if I wanted to watch a good Magical Girl anime, I'd take Princess Tutu or Ojamajo Doremi over it anyday.

Though, PPGZ does have it's redeeming qualities. I found "Kibou no Kakera" and "Mayonaka no Door" very catchy.
 
Buttercup was actually fierce, ripping people's limbs off, knocking out their teeth, eyeballs, and other brands of brutal violence, but was still insecure when you got down to it (needing her blanket to think she's a tough fighter, and falling for Ace showing she had vulnerabilities). Kaoru is just the typical "tough girl" in your standard Japanese magical girl show. She hates wearing skirts, but does so for the sake of fanservice with little-to-no explanation. She also doesn't fight anywhere near as brutal despite being the "tough girl" archetype, which is odd considering she uses a huge hammer.

I find Buttercup much more interesting, as well as the original Powerpuff Girls show in general.
 
I "bothered" to get past the beginning episodes (I watched the first 26, 27 episodes), and it still is, to me, a so-so show that doesn't do the original justice.
 
But seriously, you're saying the ONLY reason anyone would like PPGZ is because they have a bais towards anime.

Can't the reason I like it be that I, you know... LIKE IT?
 
Character design aside, aren't they the same character? (Other than the fact that the original PPG are more violent?)

If you like the Kaoru version better for reasons aside from the character design, I'd be interested in your reason why.

I'll say the original Buttercup has the advantage of being in a much better written show. ( I saw up to episode 10 or so of ppgz, then I came back to watch the Rowdy Rough Boys episode. The show is just, generally, not very well written. I'm an anime fan, just not a Powerpuff Girls Z fan. I don't have anything against Kaoru, its just the show she is in generally isn't very good.)
 
Well I have some built-in bias towards anime which includes psuedo anime like Avatar, SRMTHFG!, Totally Spies etc. mostly because of the animation style (so you can't say it's a bias only towards Japanese shows) because I like the super cuteness in anime which American original animation lacks. I also find the exaggerated emotions and cultural references funny and amusing. Same ka? I don't know why people say Blossom is so different since she likes cake :confused: she's still a deep-rooted leader who 'knows' what's right. She isn't as extremely smart as before but that's because now Ken is in the picture. Bubbles, she doesn't seem much different to original personality wise, low attention span, girly girly behavior and passion for cuteness and she still likes octopus, :sweat: in a slightly different way. As for Kaoru, she isn't extremely changed personality wise either except that she sometimes can't stand the other PPGZs mindless chatter, whereas the original Buttercup would sorta be into whatever Bubbles and Blossom are talking about also the first Buttercup never brought skirts into a conversation, and Kaoru can't stand them! I thought 'this show could have been done independently of CN with no rights licensed and it's so different to legally not be liable to creator of PPGs!', but of course still being an obvious rip-off in that case.

As for why I like her exceptionally other then that I like girls in clothes requires a bit of explaining about myself. The way her passion to persue her own unorthodox way appeals with me, as I could never settle to the expectations of people around me, and so far I've spent my relatively short life moving from place to place to find a perfect country where one of two things can happen, either there my differences wouldn't matter, or better, it's the kind of country where I like the culture so much to wish to blend in completely.

Whereas Buttercup in PPGs blended in perfectly like just a little over the top tomboyish girl, Kaoru is more in depth stand-outish, even though motivation for unique behavior and anti-girliness remains a mystery. There's not much love around for this show I can see, all that it is it's my cup of tea. If you disagree that's fine with me. *rhymes*
 
I fail to see why you think American animation lacks cuteness. Even more so when referring to this show.

The PPG were MADE of cuteness. Sugar, Spice, and Chemical X. The real style of the PPG is pretty much "cute".

Wasnt Totally Spies French anyway?
 
So your bias towards Japanese animation stems from some supposed art style? That would be fine, but there isn't a general "Japanese style"? Unless you think Doraemon, Shin-chan, Astroboy, One Piece, and Sailor Moon all look the same.

The first two season were, the third and beyond are co-productions between Canada and France
 
Tch. Sounds to me like you're just prejudiced against USAnimation, plain and simple. I could be wrong here, but it sounds to me like you're entire argument is: "The anime version of Buttercup is superior because Anime is superior to USAniamtion." You're judging an entire genre of animation by just 3 or 4 shows when there are literally thousands of them to choose from. Granted some USAnimated shows, such as the early 1960s-1970s Hanna Barbera cartoons, did use limited animation and stock expressions, but that's certainly NOT indictive the entire genre of the past 30-40 years. There is no one American style of art/animation, any more than there is only one Japanese style. Anyone who believes that all Anime looks the same clearly hasn't seen enough Anime to accurately judge it as a whole. There are plenty of USAnimated shows that employ exaggerated movements and cultural references. Just because the references aren't relevant to Japanese culture doesn't make them any less significant. If you happen to prefer anime and pseudo anime style, then fine. But saying that ALL USAnimation lacks substance is just like saying that all books lack substance, or that all movies lack substance, which is absurd to the point of being laughable.

Silverstar was right in his original post; this whole thread is just someone's biased attempt to claim that the Anime style is automatically superior to the animation from any other nation, which isn't even close to being accurate.

Question: What's the point of even having this discussion when the author readily admits that he/she is biased towards Anime?
Answer: There's no point whatsoever.
 
In the original PPG, there were some episodes centered around Buttercup's intolerance for her sisters, like I remember an episode about Buttercup and Blossom having a fight because of their different ways they approached fighting.
 
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