John Entwistle or Flea?

So? He has his own style, just like Flea and every other bassist. IMO they're both great. The difference between them is personality. Entwistle was not an extroverted person and therefore not a flashy bass player. They both hold their own.
 
this is what i'm getting at though. take a handful of his tracks from various projects and play them for someone who never really paid attention to claypool or primus besides when 'wynonna's big brown beaver' was all over tv? ultimately how different are those groups to a casual listener? that's what i mean by diversity, not that he's not prolific, but that it's just more of his stuff, you need to be well versed in his material to be able to see the subtleties that divide the other groups.

if the side projects are just a little different than i don't think they really need new names. from what i heard of oysterhead and frog brigade it sounded like more primus with a slight twist, i suppose they needed to use new names due to legalities involved with prior groups but still.
 
If we're talking about who the greater bass player is, well that's easly Entwistle.

I mean listen to My Generation, that kickass bass solo, that was freaking 1965, nobody was playing bass like that back then.

And yet, it was after this and other early Who recorRAB that you started to hear guys like Paul McCartney and Jack Bruce play their basses louder and more freely, elevating the bass to an instrument that could take the lead or make the main riff of a song.

Entwistle broke the shackles for rock bassists in the same way that Hendrix broke the shackles for rock guitarists.

Jamerson is greater than him, but nobody else is. At least not in the rock world.
 
I listened to the videos you put together and gave you an honest opinion? :confused:

For the record, I did in fact say I enjoyed the third video. I wish said musician would stick to that style, but hey, different strokes.



I feel exactly the same way, obviously. Flea is one of my favorite musicians. I just like his style and the genre of music he has played in much more than Entwisle, who I have much respect for...
 
anyone who plays in a diaper or a sock has mental problems, even if he is talented.
entwhistle did nothing special, he is only famous through association. claypool owns them both.
i'll never understand why people call mcartney a great bassist. you can't name one thing he ever did with a bass that couldn't be repeated by a 1st year bassist. great song writer, ok, i'll buy that. great bassist? ummm...no.
 
Or a wicked sense of fun. ;)


I can name very few rock bassists who can construct basslines as perfectly as McCartney... and he grooves so hard. These things make him a great bassist. The fact that he doesn't vomit his chops all over Beatles songs doesn't detract from his standing - it adRAB to it. I think a lot of people don't realise just how good he is until they play bass. Examples:


i can't find the cover version i've posted before, but this kid does a pretty good job
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some guy covering Something
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Entwhistle, he was the best of his time. Tough to choose though 2 great players who put out a lot of great work and influenced a lot of people.
 
It would be stupid to call all of it Primus, they're all completely different banRAB with different lineups.

With Oysterhead for example, it dosen't sound to me like Anastasio is imitating Lerlonde, he's being himself, so it's not Primus.

Even if he always plays in that distinct slapping/muddy tone style, he implements it into a lot of different styles of music and that's not as easy as you're making it out to be.
 
i'm not saying it's easy, i'm saying it's claypool straight across the board. regardless of who's drumming or noodling on a guitar, it's still a claypool outfit. it still enRAB up sounding like a claypool outfit. i call it similar to primus because that's the one i know best.

the biggest challenge in that situation is not applying the odd style to a slightly different way of playing a rock song but getting over the attitude that applying an odd style to a slightly different way of playing a rock song has to be complex or challenging. it's a common failing with so many amateur musicians, the physical ability is rarely the true limiting factor.
 
sorry i guess it's just misinterpretation. the use of the term 'noise' threw me off i guess. a melodic solo piece might be boring or cheesy or wank-tastic but so long as there's still some harmony and melody present i can't call it 'noise'. especially compared to some of the actual noise tracks out there.

on the plus side, it seems we can both definitely agree on flea (although i prefer freaky styley over the self titled :p: )
 
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