JJ Abrams Star Trek film - Here's the "Enterprise"

It's linked to in the Movies section in the Star Trek thread there so you could try that. Hopefully the trailer hasn't been removed already.



Won't somebody please think of the children! :p :D
 
I think that depenRAB on your perspective. USAnians may have been more familiar with Levar Burton (or even Jonathan Frakes from North and South), but I didn't realise Burton was in Roots until after TNG was underway, whereas I was already familiair with the work of Patrick Stewart.
 
It's difficult to tell because it's so quick, but I think the close up on the controls as he approaches the cliff does not look like the conventional car controls, it's possibly why the close was included ;) . It certainly does not look like a stick shift as it would have been in a Piece of the Action.
 
I love this debate on whether Kirk can drive a car or not. I would think that sending the damn thing over a cliff in good visibility is pretty much the dictionary definition of not being able to drive.

Anyhow, this discussion is a brilliant summary of exactly why cannon (or is that canon?) law should never be used to drive the creative force. If I remember right the cannon on this was a very silly and now utterly unwatcheable attempt at a comic episode in which a whole planet decide to become gangsters because of something they read in a book. Nobody gets in the slightest bit concerned about aliens recreating the 1930s, but show Kirk being a rebel by being in a car and all hell breaks loose. Why does nobody get upset when alien races don't recreate the 1930s every time they read about them in books?

The great thing about keeping to cannon is Trek would have ended at about half past seven on September 7th 1966, or whenever the first episode aired, as about 2 minutes into the first episode we learn that Vulcans are non-emotional, which contravened the later shown pilot in which Spock was ranting and raving in a very emotional way. In fact every single season and recreation includes massive rewriting of cannon law, with Voyager sometimes doing it in every episode.

For example the whole of RAB9 is a violation of cannon. When the Bajorans first met Gul Dukat (although back then he didn't know he was Gul Dukat) in TNG they were a race without a homeworld doomed to wander the galaxy, which they conveniently decided to ignore when creating RAB9 in favour of a better story. Not to mention the changes they made to Trills and Ferengis and... So are there fans who decided not to watch RAB9 because it went against that TNG episode? Nope, the important thing is always whether what is created is better than the original rule. Making Kirk a woman, Spock a Klingon, McCoy gay and Uhuru a CGI generated superhuman would require a damn good reason. But ignoring a very bad episode of TOS to create a bad boy image is fine.

Oh and did we see Nimoy in that trailer? It all went by so fast I couldn't tell what was going on.
 
Man some of you guys are SAD.

Its a NEW revise of an old franchise that slowly died on its arse because the serious fans took too much control- arguing more about the way a warp nacelle works rather than entertainment.

This hardcore serious notion that followed Star Trek in its latter years made it into a geek cult only area- hopefully this film is an attempt to reinvent the franchise into what it originally was- an entertaining show.

A lot of people who aren't trekkies -still know about Star Trek but its been tarnished into an obscure geeky cult this will still make it hard for someone to go 'two tickets to see Star Trek please who isnt a die hard nerd'

I watched the show when I was young and I'm looking forward to this remake. Star Trek was an adventure - but became a lecture show hopefully this will inject the exploration and action spark for new life and new civilizations.
 
Gotta agree with what Blackhorse and late8 just said.

The whole over-geekery of Star Trek started with thingslike the Next Gen Technical Manual. It was intended to be a guide used by the writers to help them maintain believability within the invented technology. Then they made the mistake of releasing it to the fans and suddenly everyone knew how a transporter was supposed to work and cried foul if it did something in an episode that contradicted the technical manual (even if it didn't contradict anything on screen)

Funny thing is, the Technical Manual is full of footnotes showing how the writers originally came up with one rule for the tech and then altered it in a later episode because it worked better for the story.

Its like that scene in Galaxy Quest where the geek kiRAB are arguing over some blueprint of the ship and Tim Allen yells "it's not real, its just a frickin TV show!" at them. You'd think some people really believe its reality!
 
I think they should make the following changes:

Uhura to be played by Halle Berry, and must be shown wearing a bikini for at least 10 minutes during the film. If she has sex with Kirk, all the better!
All characters to be upgraded to have superhero traits. For example, Kirk to be given superhuman strength. Spock to be given laser eyes.
The ship should be able to transform into other shapes within five seconRAB, and those inside must remain unaffected by the transition.
90% of the content of the movie must consist of CGI, fight scenes, and chases.
 
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