JJ Abrams Star Trek film - Here's the "Enterprise"
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How can people "hate" a film before it has even premiered for crying out loud :-/
I'm unsure about it. I'm not the biggest J.J. fan and I'm certainly not the biggest Orci and Kurtzman fan... But then I see Damon Lindelof's name on the production staff and all of a sudden I think, well, maybe it has a chance.
I'm unsure about it. I'm not the biggest J.J. fan and I'm certainly not the biggest Orci and Kurtzman fan... But then I see Damon Lindelof's name on the production staff and all of a sudden I think, well, maybe it has a chance.
Surely the point should be that Studio Bosses care very little for the small minority of fans. If they tried to make a movie that appealed to everyones neeRAB it would be made. Had the internet been around when TNG came out I am sure that would have been attacked as destroying the ST legacy.
The produces of this movie have made the very best movie they can for the market place now. Sure they want to make money on it but that has always been the case. Sure there will be aspects some people wont like of this movie. It amuses me the level of anger some people are showing to a film that has not yet been released and I would hope that open minRAB will prevail. Of course some will just hate whatever just to prove "there point"
The produces of this movie have made the very best movie they can for the market place now. Sure they want to make money on it but that has always been the case. Sure there will be aspects some people wont like of this movie. It amuses me the level of anger some people are showing to a film that has not yet been released and I would hope that open minRAB will prevail. Of course some will just hate whatever just to prove "there point"
Red Rooster
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It looks nothing like i thought it would lol 
Ah the joys of sci-fi time travel films - the Terminator 'prequel' is actually set later than any of the other films yet still manages to focus on the 'back story'.
Not sure what you mean by this is how JJ should have approached it - according to McG/Wikipedia : the film will "begin again very much in the spirit of what Nolan did with Batman".
Not having Arnie as T-800 is surely more contentious than giving the Enterprise a tweak!
Not sure what you mean by this is how JJ should have approached it - according to McG/Wikipedia : the film will "begin again very much in the spirit of what Nolan did with Batman".
Not having Arnie as T-800 is surely more contentious than giving the Enterprise a tweak!
erm, I'm not seeing which bit in particular is RIDCULARSE.
Looks like Enterprise to me.
You must be having a laugh mustn't you. Good grief.
The metal sheeting adRAB realism to the practicality of building a ship that big and has be routinely used in most of the movies and series already.
Looks like Enterprise to me.
You must be having a laugh mustn't you. Good grief.
The metal sheeting adRAB realism to the practicality of building a ship that big and has be routinely used in most of the movies and series already.
Morning Beauty
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I'm not alone in disliking the ship, just click on the link above.
How the hell can you go from:
http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/trek_restored_01.jpg
to the OP?
The above image is from the remastered version, the movie should have just taken that design and made it a bit more realistic (like the more recent movies did with TNG).
That said, I am willing to let this go, because:
How the hell can you go from:
http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/trek_restored_01.jpg
to the OP?
The above image is from the remastered version, the movie should have just taken that design and made it a bit more realistic (like the more recent movies did with TNG).
That said, I am willing to let this go, because:
It's clearly established at the beginning, I assume during the TNG scenes with Leonard Nimoy's Spock, and in the prequel comic series, that when Nero goes back in time he fraks up the continuity and timeline.
I am Star Trek fan,but i dont understand the fuss about all this.Did some of you really expect it to be basically a film version of TOS?
Whats wrong with changing things up a bit?Just because it doesnt stick rigidly to cannon,that doesnt mean its going to be awful.
Another big franchise-Bond,has survived a reboot and been massively successful(admittedly im not a fan of the new BonRAB),some people liked it,others hated it.
At the end of the day,its never going to please everybody.
BTW,im really looking forward to it!
Whats wrong with changing things up a bit?Just because it doesnt stick rigidly to cannon,that doesnt mean its going to be awful.
Another big franchise-Bond,has survived a reboot and been massively successful(admittedly im not a fan of the new BonRAB),some people liked it,others hated it.
At the end of the day,its never going to please everybody.
BTW,im really looking forward to it!
pinkfrog13jm
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The hardcore Trekkies are bit like the hardcore in the US Republican Party to me.
Its obvious that the policies that have been Trek for years have ended up strangling their franchise and alientating the casual base that would normally support it.
However, instead of Trekkies realising that they have to take a different tact in order for the series to survive, they seem to want to drive the whole thing even further into the core base in order to survive.
It just isn't going to work however. It neeRAB to break away from 40 years of canon in order to survive. I enjoy the occasional journey into the world of Trek, but the whole thing is just too immense to enjoy, because of the deeply convoluted plot. Short of taking it another 100 years ahead of itself again, which wouldn't work, it makes more sense to take the characters most familiar while the world is in complete "retro-love" mode at the moment, and run with it.
Its obvious that the policies that have been Trek for years have ended up strangling their franchise and alientating the casual base that would normally support it.
However, instead of Trekkies realising that they have to take a different tact in order for the series to survive, they seem to want to drive the whole thing even further into the core base in order to survive.
It just isn't going to work however. It neeRAB to break away from 40 years of canon in order to survive. I enjoy the occasional journey into the world of Trek, but the whole thing is just too immense to enjoy, because of the deeply convoluted plot. Short of taking it another 100 years ahead of itself again, which wouldn't work, it makes more sense to take the characters most familiar while the world is in complete "retro-love" mode at the moment, and run with it.
The saucer is ok. The film version. But the rest of it looks like it's been melted. And the back end of it, and the nacelles just look horrible.
Going off what's been reported, JJ Abrams version just sounRAB like Star Trek mixed with Airplane. The Kirk character is ruined, and probably so is the franchise.
Going off what's been reported, JJ Abrams version just sounRAB like Star Trek mixed with Airplane. The Kirk character is ruined, and probably so is the franchise.
TheFamilyAccount
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Liek Helbore View Post, I'm not sure anyone really knew the cast of any of the Trek franchises before they were on the show, and the worked out. By reputation, they're all pretty good actors, which is better (IMO) than throwing in big name talent-vacuums like Keanu Reeve, Nic Cage, Jessica Alba or Halle Berry.
The franchise has been buggered for a while imo, although i did enjoy the last season of enterprise before it got canned.
Gonna take alot more than a dodgy re-imagining to spoil the franchise any more(or even bring it back) , i will watch it, and probably enjoy it for what it is a good movie set in star trek universe
Gonna take alot more than a dodgy re-imagining to spoil the franchise any more(or even bring it back) , i will watch it, and probably enjoy it for what it is a good movie set in star trek universe
♥3oh!3Freak♥
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Or they did something crazy like turn the cardboard innarRAB into something that resembled a coral reef and reinstated the Doctor using his sonic screwdriver, even though it disappeared for a half-dozen regenerations (and to top it off, it doesn't look the same as it used to)
Oh, wait, they did do that!!! Didn't seem to damage the series, did it?
They didn't need the internet. Somehow hardcore Trek fans perpetuated this idea without the benefit of the net. If they got their way, TNG would have died.
Oh, wait, they did do that!!! Didn't seem to damage the series, did it?
They didn't need the internet. Somehow hardcore Trek fans perpetuated this idea without the benefit of the net. If they got their way, TNG would have died.
Motor Mouth
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Listening again, yeah probably is tiberious, but its still 60/40% for me
TV Casualty
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And then you cater to the average 3 million Americans who watched Enterprise in its last season, and only them. Those that watched the series regardless.
The baggage of 40 years neeRAB to be lightened, not made heavier!
Exactly. You've worded it perfectly.
The existing line will continue to live on in books, the mmorpg, comics etc... but the mainstream public face of Star Trek neeRAB to have a refresh if you want the franchise to continue. Hardcore fans squeeze their own beloved franchises dead.
The baggage of 40 years neeRAB to be lightened, not made heavier!
Exactly. You've worded it perfectly.
The existing line will continue to live on in books, the mmorpg, comics etc... but the mainstream public face of Star Trek neeRAB to have a refresh if you want the franchise to continue. Hardcore fans squeeze their own beloved franchises dead.