JJ Abrams Star Trek film - Here's the "Enterprise"

To be fair the majority of fans are fairly open minded about it. It's only a minority of "fans" who are being silly, but of course it's that minority that is making the most noise, giving the whole lot of us a bad name.
 
The TARDIS looked silly in 1963 and looks silly today. It was never meant to be a believable spaceship, it was meant to be a disguise for one so the last thing people would think is that it was a spaceship.

The sonic screwdriver is only slightly less silly - as Capt Jack said, "Who looks at a screwdriver and thinks 'hmm, that could be a bit more sonic'?"

There's no need to update or modernize them because they were always silly. Same thing with K9. Even the Daleks - as I explained to a friend I was trying to introduce to Who, "Now something you have to understand is that these are supposed to be scary"

I think the Star Trek people would be best off making the franchise like Superman, Batman, where the roles of Kirk, Spock and McCoy can be reinterpreted differently over and over again, instead of trying to stick to a canonical history from a long-dead TV show.
 
Enterprise showed how NOT to make a Star Trek series.
A reboot is the way to go. Just as long as they keep the ethos and don't change the timeline too much, it will be ok.

BTW Does the trailer look like Galaxy Quest?
 
The ship is just all right for me, it hasn't got that ummph thing that the TNG ship had in the TV series.

The original TOS ship now looks like an airfix kit, perhaps by association.

But the internals of the the bridge come over like some Science Museum exhibt, all shiny shiny plexiglass and halogen uplighters.
 
God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO, Have I said NO enough?
 
No, the design is completely off. It's far too metallic (the actual Enterprise has a rubbery-metal look to it) and streamlined.

Of course, I'm most scared about
the Next Generation scenes, and how they'll screw that up. It's not really a big spoiler, but this movie is a prequel-within-a-sequel, so having the prequel part reimagined is cool, but not TNG stuff!
 
Blimey, before now I thought I was firmly in the cynical camp about this reboot, reckoning that the hints about the story sounRAB as if it'll be poor, the actors looking weak etc, but at least I've now found where I draw the line! Oh come on, surely attacking pictures of a spaceship because it looks like it's made of metal is too much. From the hints before I thought they'd be completely radical with a see-through ship with big fins on the roof and wheels or some such, but I can't even tell the difference.

It does amaze me that some fans can happily watch Trek episodes featuring all sorts of nonsense such as cats evolving into iguanas, DNA being used to restore memories, characters turning into a giant lizard after breaking warp 10, captains risking the crew to save holodeck characters etc etc etc, but have a nacelle a few feet longer than it should be and a slightly different shade of grey then suddenly we're talking real rubbish.
 
TOS ship was utter crap. Sure it was iconic as a design but I have absolutely no problem with the ship not looking like it did in the TOS. The old ship didn't look rubbery metal it looked like a piece of cardboard flying through space like a crab every week.

Perhaps the Enterprise is refitted before TOS starts, Deflector Dish technology improved and they are able to shrink it all down so the neck of the Enterprise fits to the front of the ship. Perhaps this new design of ship has nacelles so powerful they need thick pylons to hold them, but by the time the refit comes around they will have managed to thin them out.

Show the picture of the new ship to anyone and they will identify it as the Starship Enterprise which is the most important thing

As for the film ruining the franchise... the franchise has already been ruined by years of the series and films not taking risks and churning out the same thing over and over until pretty much everyone got bored of it.

This film will hopefully relaunch the franchise, bring in new fans and renewed interest, and fingers crossed we will get some new Star Trek series that really does something new and interesting.
 
Yes. And there's room for your vision as well. All you have to do is simply not watch any new incarnations of Trek and allow other people to enjoy them without making a ridiculous fuss. TOS is still there, still available on DVRAB and reruns. Sames as the 1950s Superman series and 1960s Batman series. If other people would rather see something of some relevance to this century, then Paramount will supply it to them if it's profitable.
 
No name actors don't mean bad actors, though. Who'd heard of any of the other actors, from any of the series before they aired? Scott Bakula was probably the only recognisable name to appear in a Trek show, prior to Trek making them known. I guess Shatner and Kelly were fairly known as well, but pretty much the whole TNG cast were unknowns when the series began. Didn't do them any harm being unknown, did it?
 
BSG- Adama and Baltar especially are great in the re-imagined series.

Stargate- Give me Richard Dean Anderson and Michael Shanks over KR and JS any day.
 
I know..I can't get too precious about it either. It's the Enterprise, its Star Trek, of course it's going to look a little different and of course everyone has their own idea of what the ship should look like, which will never match exactly whats on screen...
 
I didn't see that. I did see them recognising that Kirk is a vital character to the Star Trek universe and treating him appropriately, giving him the importance the character deserves. Thankfully. Because I'd have absolutely no interest in this film if it had left out Kirk or made his role a minor one.

For most people, if they think of Star Trek, they're going to think of Captain Kirk in the very same breath. Even people who are otherwise unfamilar with Trek know who Kirk is, and that's going to help get this movie the audiences.
 
Of course it looks different and more modern. Just exercise some suspension of disbelief.

Even the Enterprise in ST:E looked more modern than the TOS one. What was strange was when they found the Defiant in the mirror universe, and you had a ship from the future that looked more old-fashioned that the current one.. v.weird. Anyway ;)
 
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