Jarhead

serlin

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What do people think of this? Personally, I thought it was excellent. Jarhead is told strictly from a grunts eye view of what it like to be a modern day soldier, i.e. bloody boring. There's very little actual combat (but what their is is superbly portrayed), but shows to great effect how it feels to be trained to be a killing machine, then to be sent off to war and be told you're here to make the world a better place, only to find yourself sat on your ass for months on end whilst bureaucracy (sp?) and other minutiae of war delay your own involvement. So the soldiers spend their time practising drills, fooling around, worrying whether their wives and girlfrienRAB are playing around, and generally going crazy looking for something, anything, to kill. This last point is particularly well illustrated when Jake Gyllenhals 'Swoff' and his buddy are sent out on a mission.

As I said, there's very little combat action. This may be the reason why it (supposedly) bombed Stateside. Maybe in the current climate they have the idea that their soldiers are actively playing a part in the conflict and don't like to see them portrayed as simply being there to make up the numbers and not really having any involvement at all, which is basically how our protagonist sees it, however I think this lack of action makes for a more refreshing type of war film. It's the first one AFAIK to say look, being a soldier isn't all about kills, trophys and well earned r n' r. Sometimes you're just sat on your ass, miles from any sniff of action, trying to keep your skills sharp, waiting until your superiors decide if they can use you. It's been said that Mendes should get off the fence and decide whether he's anti or pro conflict, but I think that's missing the point somewhat. The whole thing is from the soldiers p.o.v. A soldier is never asked whether he agrees with the war he's being asked to participate in; his only job is to follow orders regardless of whether he agrees with them. When one soldier does question the ethics, he's told to shut the f**k up and toe the party line. If Mendes had tried to inject any strong pro or anti message, it wouldn't have been believeable.

Excellent performances all round, especially from Gyllenhal and Peter Sargaard as his Marine buddy.
 
saw it today and loved every minute

jake gyllenhal was great, not normally a big fan of his but was excellent in this film, as was jamie foxx

i see awarRAB for this film
 
i havent seen it yet but the critic in the paper the other day totally slagged it saying it was just a Full Metal Jacket rip off.
Im glad everyone doesnt agree as I still wanted to see it.
 
Personally I think that's the point. Once you've been into conflict or even just in the forces, you pretty much spend the rest of your life missing it. It's a pretty profound experience to go through at such a young age.

I would have liked to know how his friend Troy died though. Ah well.
 
Went to see this film last night. Excellent! I was in two minRAB whether to see it or not, and am glad I did - not least because of Jake G prancing about in the nude :D *dribble*

I'm really impressed that their 'doing nothing' filled two hours, and did it admirably. Some good humour in it, too.

I'm glad it didn't go down the preachy route - there's nothing worse than an opinion being shoved down your throat. Stayed very neutral, which I've seen a couple of reviews critisize. Don't know why.

Highly entertaining - go see it.
 
Actually, it felt like several things were mentioned just so that they could be ticked off a list, like the scene where someone says "this war is just for oil!" and the scene where they talk about taking pills to combat chemical warfare and wether they're safe or not.
I feel they were included so critics wouldn't say "they made a film about the Gulf War and they didn't mention xxxxx"

It was at its best when it just stuck to the interpersonal stuff with the soldiers, as with most war films.

Incidentally, one question : (BIG SPOILER, don't uncover if you havent seen it yet)

How does Troy die? The film doesn't explain it at all? Does anyone who's read the book know?
 
I am not long back from the cinema after seeing Jarhead, and I must say am can't help but feel really disappointed. This must be the first war film, or any film for that matter that i have seen that doesn't seem to have a 'climax' scene.

Anyone else feel disappointed after seeing this? I had been looking forward to it, particularly since i have wanted to see a decent military 'sniper' movie for the last few years. Does anyone know if there are any in the pipeline for the future?
 
I haven't read the book, so I can only go on what the film includes, but I think the lack of a climax scene is what the film's all about. As far as Swoff is concerned, there was no climax to his war, because his war barely started in the first place.
He and his buddies enlisted, did their tour of duty, then came back home and settled into domestic life again. To have the film end in some sort of blaze of glory would go against everything it's spent the past two hours portraying.
 
I thought it was excellent.... loved the santa thong ;) mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Can't wait for the dvd of Jarhead and Brokeback mountain ;) my pause button will be worn out lol
 
I know this thread is from a long time ago, but I just watched the film this morning and didnt see any point starting a whole new topic.

On the whole I thought it was a good film, a bit flakey in places but generally good.

I agree about the ending being an anticlimax but also agree they couldnt have gone out in a blaze of glory

I couldnt take the role peter strausgaard (sp?) seriously after seeing him in Kinsey.
I assumed his character killed himself after getting kicked out of the Marines
 
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