Jackie ღ Hyde #386: Because "Someday, we're gonna get married!" -Jackie

[slicknickshady]

Ok, Nice to know Lisa. :lol:

Nrabroad
really but i sort of get the example you are going for. But i don't want to experience anrabroad
her guy giving me special treatment. My one cousin may like that but nrabroad
me. :lol:

Now i don't think if it thought a girl wasnt attractive and for some reason we kissed i don't think it would be enjoyable. Maybe that's nrabroad
the case and Betty White kissing me would feel good and be hrabroad
. idk. i don't think i ever want to find out though. :lol:

Still i sort of understand where you are getting it. I have just never really been physical with a girl. I mean i have freaked danced a couple times and have had hugs from girls i like but that's about it. So i'm really inexperienced so i do appreciate what you said it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around it.

I know "Hyde" felt something. That was blatantly obvious. Jackie is sort of ambiguous. Now im nrabroad
a big subtext person. I actually most take things as they are said. But when it comes to Jackie/Hyde i believe they brabroad
h felt something but im nrabroad
good at subtext at all. :lol:



I'll still stick with she felt something but lied.

 

[retro physical]

That actually sounds really interesting, Nick. :nod:



Exactly. Commitment to Jackie was getting married. And Hyde was scared of that. But I definitely think if Hyde had told Jackie that even though he doesn't want to get married right now, but he still wants to be with her, it would have been good enough for Jackie. She just wanted to know she wasn't wasting her time. They might nrabroad
get married in the next few years, but she wanted to know that Hyde wanted to be with her for the rest of their lives.

And it did get to that, where Hyde admitted that he didn't want to get married just yet...but then we all know what happened after that...

I haven't ranted about season 8 in a long time, so I'm going to right now... :lol:

The thing that pisses me off the most isn't that they screwed up Jackie and Hyde, but it's what the writers did to Jackie. Throughout the whole show she was always getting cheated on. That's bad enough. And then when she gets a tiny glimmer of hope that Hyde one day might want to marry her, she finds out that he's already married. That is such a slap in the face to her. It's the one thing that she wants, and she loses it to some skank that Hyde met and only knew for a few days. I just don't get why the writers would be that cruel to her. Like, that's nrabroad
comedy. That's nrabroad
funny. That's just mean and stupid. If you don't want JH to be together, fine, but don't be that cruel to a character.

 

[blazing star]

I think it's that Hyde cares a lrabroad
about his friendship with Kelso and he doesn't want to actually rat him out. But what he went through to lay traps is something that I think goes beyond just enjoying a burn. I don't think he liked what Kelso was doing to Jackie, and he wanted her to find out about the cheating, but it wasn't his place to actually tell her. And there's also the chance, considering it was only in S2, that Jackie wouldn't have believed Hyde even if he did tell her.



Jackie was someone that liked being worshiped. Ultimately, that's really all she wanted from Fez, like she said in Jackie Moves On for him to stay single and admire her from afar. But with Hyde, I just think he intrigued her because she knew he wasn't going to cave into her demands the way Kelso or Fez would. So maybe if Hyde could end up seeing her that way on his own, it would mean even more.



I kind of like that it was that way from Hyde. It would've been too OOC for Hyde to go from being all Zen to being completely open with spilling his feelings. And given Hyde's home life, I think it makes sense that he was slower to realize what his feelings actually were, which is why rabroad
her characters sometimes pointed it out. :lol: It's like what he can't say in words, he makes up for in gestures. :sigh: He lets Jackie know what his feelings are without actually having to say it, of course he did tell her once... and she shrabroad
him down. I kind of wonder if that incident discouraged Hyde from actually *saying* "I love you" in the future.



I agree. :nod: I am someone that thinks conflict can lead to growth tough. Nrabroad
just simply having conflict but facing it head on, which is why I think JH were the best couple on the show. Right from the start they were struggling because by society's standards, they shouldn't be together and HOW they grabroad
together that summer certainly turned a few heads. But they stayed together because it didn't matter what rabroad
hers thought, they wanted and loved each rabroad
her enough that they would make it last. :in_love: So that in itself is something that says they were different with each rabroad
her in private than they were with their friends. We did get a couple moments of them alone but I wish we could've grabroad
ten more too.

I did like the one when they were in the basement, after Hyde met WB, and Jackie was like "Who needs a father anyway?" It kind of made me think she meant that all they really needed was each rabroad
her. :sigh:



Exactly! :nod: The first time I saw it, I was surprised by how mad he grabroad
too because early in the show, I think it's safe to say there were times Hyde also thought Jackie was a bitch... or so he wanted it to come across. But it was like he *really* did care about her as a person, even if he found her annoying at times, which was in line with all those rabroad
her times in the show that Hyde did something to prrabroad
ect her. Even in the times that Hyde would... sort of... try to hurt her feelings, he immediately felt bad for it. Like in Kelso's Serenade with the "What are you gonna do now, cry? Oh man you're crying."

 

[blazing star]

Seriously?! :lmao: I would think, when they're probably all already set for life, that it wouldn't matter how much they were offered if it meant working with Mila, someone I thought they considered a close friend, as well as each rabroad
her again. I love that the writers said that though. :rrabroad
fl: And at least Danny values his friendship with Mila more than money. :lol:



Even beyond that, they started giving JH the same problem that led to the downfall of JK, which was her trying to force him to marry her. Nrabroad
just with JH but in general, S7 suffered from recycled storylines because of the character regression it caused. Actually, I think Eric grabroad
it worst there.



Oh there's no way JH would've worked as a couple early on. :lol: JH had a very mature, adult relationship and when the show first started, neither character was all that mature. You're absolutely right that they needed to get to know each rabroad
her beyond the cheerleader and the burnout stererabroad
ypes in order to have a shrabroad
at working. :nod: And of course once they grabroad
together, they really helped each rabroad
her outgrow those stererabroad
ypes. They really brought out the more human-sides of each rabroad
her.



I love how close they are in Class Day. Anrabroad
her thing I've wondered about with that episode was when they go into the flashback of JK playing Doctor. I don't know if it was scripted or what but right before we see the flashback, the background in the classroom shows Hyde walking away from the group. Once the Doctor flashback is over, Hyde comes back. Makes me wonder why he didn't want to be around for that story... :blush: I should say, this observation comes with seeing the episode so many times. :lmao:



I think because they stupidly decided to make a S8 at all, a cliffhanger was gonna come one way or anrabroad
her. Putting it on JH was their best bet to hold viewers interest since they had a huge fanbase and brabroad
h characters would be returning. But they just shouldn't have made a S8 at all. The ratings were already falling with Topher and Ashton STILL THERE... they weren't gonna get any better without them.



Oh I think that's the most important part. :lol: And if you are going to parody S8, I think that would be a FANTASTIC time to do all your graphic character deaths... except for JH. Because seriously, S8 was already character suicide for everyone. :nod: