ITV - Real Crime: The Cat and Mouse Killer
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Fiore Sanguinante
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I'm watching a program on Five about another murderer. And before that was another program about a rapist and murderer. Oh thursdays a nice nights for TV 
But it just goes to show how sick some people are. What actually is the ITV program about?
But it just goes to show how sick some people are. What actually is the ITV program about?
shady sunshine
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was that the ch5 programme called the sex dungeon or something? i saw a bit of that, the recording the bloke played to his victims was sooooooooo chilling! 
Real Crime is about a man who killed his wife, a loving mother of 2, denied it, went on telly even on richard and judy to talk about her death claiming his innocence, then when he was finally arrested on suspicion of murder he admitted that he strangled her, chopped her body up in the bath with help from his brother, hid the parts around the local area with the exception of the legs and the head which he left out for the binmen, those have never been found.
LinRABays (the victim) brother couldnt take the horrific details of his sisters murder and commited suicide
It happened in 1999 in Southport.
The bloke only got 17 years.
Real Crime is about a man who killed his wife, a loving mother of 2, denied it, went on telly even on richard and judy to talk about her death claiming his innocence, then when he was finally arrested on suspicion of murder he admitted that he strangled her, chopped her body up in the bath with help from his brother, hid the parts around the local area with the exception of the legs and the head which he left out for the binmen, those have never been found.
LinRABays (the victim) brother couldnt take the horrific details of his sisters murder and commited suicide
It happened in 1999 in Southport.
The bloke only got 17 years.
ryu_hindustani
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Southport.
What an utter git he was.
What an utter git he was.
Oh he sounRAB horrible, not human. This program currently on Five is a bit boring so be honest but its a bit late for me to watch the ITV program.
I can't actually remember the name of the previous program but it was something like you said.
And yes that recording was horrible to listen to.
You probably didn't know this but it took them ages before they could actually arrest him properly but i was really shocked by this as to me they had loaRAB of evidence. They had videos of this man testing his 'equipment' in his 'play room' as he called it. Then they found a video of him with a drugged woman on this horrible looking chair and he was touching her all over. They also had the voice recordings, the room itself and someone else who knew about it and admitted his part in it all but after all that they still kept saying they did not have enough evidence.
They interviewed one woman who was raped by this guy and she couldn't remember that much as this guy drugged the victims with an amnesia drug but she remembered bits, but it took to a second trial until the guy was actually found guilty. But he did get a LIFE sentence, and it really was, he got something over 100 years (much better than britains 'life' sentence) but he died from a heart attack about 8 months later.
They also interviewed the lawyer who was on this guys side. Now i just hate people like him. This lawyer even admitted himself he believed this guy was guilty yet he tried to get him off the sentence. Urrgh i hate those sorts of people, i know they just say they are doing their job, but in my opinion they are nearly as bad as the convict if they can allow a sick criminal to get away with things such as rape and murder.
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I can't actually remember the name of the previous program but it was something like you said.
And yes that recording was horrible to listen to.
You probably didn't know this but it took them ages before they could actually arrest him properly but i was really shocked by this as to me they had loaRAB of evidence. They had videos of this man testing his 'equipment' in his 'play room' as he called it. Then they found a video of him with a drugged woman on this horrible looking chair and he was touching her all over. They also had the voice recordings, the room itself and someone else who knew about it and admitted his part in it all but after all that they still kept saying they did not have enough evidence.
They interviewed one woman who was raped by this guy and she couldn't remember that much as this guy drugged the victims with an amnesia drug but she remembered bits, but it took to a second trial until the guy was actually found guilty. But he did get a LIFE sentence, and it really was, he got something over 100 years (much better than britains 'life' sentence) but he died from a heart attack about 8 months later.
They also interviewed the lawyer who was on this guys side. Now i just hate people like him. This lawyer even admitted himself he believed this guy was guilty yet he tried to get him off the sentence. Urrgh i hate those sorts of people, i know they just say they are doing their job, but in my opinion they are nearly as bad as the convict if they can allow a sick criminal to get away with things such as rape and murder.
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Eleanore L
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Yeh i saw his lawyer, what a f*cking creep, how could he possibly believe that sick rapist??
I watched this as it happened where I live in Southport.
Mitchell was a very sick individual. You could see by the programme just how evil and smug he was. He really didn't care about what he had done to his poor wife. The story was huge when it first broke that LynRABey had all of a sudden gone missing leaving her to children. We had Mitchell doing interview after interview about how she'd just left him and then how he had seen her in the market in town etc. The absolute nerve of him going on the Granada news programme and then onto Richard and Judy, blackening LynRABey's name by making out she didn't care about her children. I commend the police for never giving up and finally getting him to crack.
It was very interesting watching it as it showed us from day one her parents and family knew he had killed her. they never let us know that in the press. It was all about finding LynRABey and not about muRABlinging at Mitchell. They were heartbroken as anyone would be especially as he was still looking after the children throughout the whole investigation.
I urge anyone who didn't watch it to try and find it online. You will be shocked just how smug someone could be after killing their wife and chopping her up. He even says on film " Do I look like a psychopath?"
Mitchell was a very sick individual. You could see by the programme just how evil and smug he was. He really didn't care about what he had done to his poor wife. The story was huge when it first broke that LynRABey had all of a sudden gone missing leaving her to children. We had Mitchell doing interview after interview about how she'd just left him and then how he had seen her in the market in town etc. The absolute nerve of him going on the Granada news programme and then onto Richard and Judy, blackening LynRABey's name by making out she didn't care about her children. I commend the police for never giving up and finally getting him to crack.
It was very interesting watching it as it showed us from day one her parents and family knew he had killed her. they never let us know that in the press. It was all about finding LynRABey and not about muRABlinging at Mitchell. They were heartbroken as anyone would be especially as he was still looking after the children throughout the whole investigation.
I urge anyone who didn't watch it to try and find it online. You will be shocked just how smug someone could be after killing their wife and chopping her up. He even says on film " Do I look like a psychopath?"
umaga100and7
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Just to add that Elliot, Mitchell's brother who helped him whilst Mitchell chopped the body up and helped to hide her, is now out of prison and free to get on with his life.
The programme is on the ITV.com website for those that might want to watch it, it is a tearjerker though as are all of the Real Crime series.
The programme is on the ITV.com website for those that might want to watch it, it is a tearjerker though as are all of the Real Crime series.
To be honest, it makes me want to puke thinking that his brother is out now, willing to live a free life and the murderer will be out in about 10 years! Makes me sick.
I didn't watch the programme, as I don't really like these real life type documentaries, but I just had to comment on the facts I've heard as I find it a total and utter travesty that a murderer and his accomplice get less than 20 years behind bars. The criminal justice system in this country is a joke.
I didn't watch the programme, as I don't really like these real life type documentaries, but I just had to comment on the facts I've heard as I find it a total and utter travesty that a murderer and his accomplice get less than 20 years behind bars. The criminal justice system in this country is a joke.
As it was ten years ago now and he got 17 years, he could be out in about 7 years, it is completely shocking. He'll still be relatively young and will be free to get on with his life when he does actually have the blood of two people on his hanRAB. Lynsey's brother committed suicide as he couldn't cope with what had happened to his sister, once it came out exactly what he had done. Unbeknown to him was that his girlfriend was pregnant at the time and has gone on to have a daughter, one that will never meet her Dad.
Life should really mean life, if you end somebody else's life then you should spend the rest of yours paying for it.
Life should really mean life, if you end somebody else's life then you should spend the rest of yours paying for it.
Rothchilds
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Watched this on Thursday night - what a truly loathsome individual that guy was. He should have been a candidate for the death penalty - he confessed and even pointed out where he'd disposed of body parts for Christ's sake!
To me, the fact that he sent the investigating officer a Christmas card and present was as good as an admission of guilt - a bit like the legendary 'Dear Boss' letter in the Jack the Ripper case ...
To me, the fact that he sent the investigating officer a Christmas card and present was as good as an admission of guilt - a bit like the legendary 'Dear Boss' letter in the Jack the Ripper case ...
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He couldn't get anymore arrogant could he! He was playing games with the police, thinking they had nothing on him and wouldn't ever charge him with it. He was soon quick to tell the police of his brother's involvement too, I wonder had he not said anything would they have ever known that Elliot played a part in it, their father too.
He wasn't shy around the town either as you could see from those films. Allowing himself to be be filmed must have been a real power boost to him. Most people who are suspected of murder, I would imagine, would keep a low profile, not him, he relished in it. Grrr, he makes me so angry. I saw Lynsey's Dad in our local Asda yesterday, he seemed ok, how do you get through what has happened to them though, I don't know that I could.
He was almost gleeful when showing them where he'd put the body parts, he loved being filmed as if he was some kind of star.
He wasn't shy around the town either as you could see from those films. Allowing himself to be be filmed must have been a real power boost to him. Most people who are suspected of murder, I would imagine, would keep a low profile, not him, he relished in it. Grrr, he makes me so angry. I saw Lynsey's Dad in our local Asda yesterday, he seemed ok, how do you get through what has happened to them though, I don't know that I could.
He was almost gleeful when showing them where he'd put the body parts, he loved being filmed as if he was some kind of star.
What I couldn't understand is how the poor girl went missing around the 15th December but her mum, dad and sisters didn't realise and report she was missing until the new year. Didn't they ring her even on Christmas Day to wish her a happy Christmas?
Also, Although there was a lot of circumstancial evidence, there was nothing cocrete to pin on him, and the documentary said it took over a year to amass enough evidence to prsent a case. This included things like missed appointments at the hairdressers and dentists in the interim period between the last confirmed sighting, 15.12 (as I say, I might be a day or two out there) and Xmas Day, the date Quy alleged she walked out. Now, I would have thought trying to turn information up like that would be pretty basic investigative work. Why did it take them in excess of a year to establish this?
Finally, it's chilling to think that if Quy hadn't cracked and finally confessed, he may well have got away with it, because how could they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that he definitely killed her (no body, no weapon, no witnesses to the killing etc)?
Also, Although there was a lot of circumstancial evidence, there was nothing cocrete to pin on him, and the documentary said it took over a year to amass enough evidence to prsent a case. This included things like missed appointments at the hairdressers and dentists in the interim period between the last confirmed sighting, 15.12 (as I say, I might be a day or two out there) and Xmas Day, the date Quy alleged she walked out. Now, I would have thought trying to turn information up like that would be pretty basic investigative work. Why did it take them in excess of a year to establish this?
Finally, it's chilling to think that if Quy hadn't cracked and finally confessed, he may well have got away with it, because how could they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that he definitely killed her (no body, no weapon, no witnesses to the killing etc)?
nothingface_78
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Yes the story did seem sketchy in a few parts. I think the family said they didn't report it because they knew all along he killed her, seems strange to me why they didn't report it. They didn't like the fella from day one and always thought he was not good for their daughter.
The programme was on ITV again last night but I missed it and watched it on youtube instead. Like you, I was a bit miffed by the fact what would appear to be basic investigative procedures like establishing Lynsey's last known movements leading up to the day she allegedly walked out wasn't done earlier. Also, and more shocking to me, was knowing that the police suspected murder almost from the beginning but it would appear they didn't use cadaver and/or blood dogs to search the house so turned up zero forensic evidence during their initial investigation! Given Lynsey's fate, the flat would have been overflowing with forensic evidence! Thankfully, the killer was caught and convicted but it seems there were several missed clues which would have led to the case being solved much, much earlier.
Rhymenocerous
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It just shows that someone can seem perfectly normal and innocent on camera, but underneath are hiding terrible terrible crimes.
bigga/nigga
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It's unbelievable that the forensic evidence wasn't found immediately.
Like most of these reconstructions the detective in charge comes on blowing their own trumpet having missed the most elementary indicators and having cost the taxpayer a fortune.
Juat about every similar tale throws up the same glaring lack of due diligence.
Like most of these reconstructions the detective in charge comes on blowing their own trumpet having missed the most elementary indicators and having cost the taxpayer a fortune.
Juat about every similar tale throws up the same glaring lack of due diligence.