itunes releasers?

1000possibleclaws said:
You would be an idiot to upload something onto the internet that is copyright and has your user info still in the files.

Applying these 'no re-up' rules just make HDBits worse than it could be without the rule, because its restricting competition. It's is one of the standard 'lazy' ways of try to force a monopoly on a market, or to keep your product on top without productive innovation.

I'm glad you brought up What.cd, but not sure why you bothered to mention the much inferior site Waffles.fm. What.cd is the one torrent site I've noticed to use innovation and not these lazy tactics to get where they are today (arguably best music source, arguably most successful private tracker).
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Well it happens and thats why the rules are there.

I don't see how it limits innovation either. I would argue the opposite point really since if other sites actually wanted to compete or release original content they would have to start buying original material also which would be great. Some sites even do this like CHDBits, TorrentGUI and some other HD torrent trackers which is fucking awesome and proves your theory wrong. Competition drives innovation and a monopoly in something like HD content is never good, but the people can't just take shit and put it someplace else because that accomplishes nothing. If they bought all the stuff and added to the content available on the web then they would actually be doing something productive.
 
ringhunter said:
Isn't about time you two buried the hatchet? You've been arguing for as long as I've been a member here. How could you two not be bored of disagreeing with one another on every possible topic? I honestly think you two will never see eye to eye, considering Idol is an idealist, and hotshot's a realist/practical person. I also realize it's some times hard to see things from another person's perspective, but there comes a point where letting your opinion be known, isn't worth the effort invested in the argument.

For the record, whichever person decides to quote this post of mine and attach a snipe at the other person or defend their own position will only seem like a child. Just quit the conversation/argument, considering it isn't going anywhere, and is only making it blatant that the only thing you two agree on is the fact that HDBits exists.
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Tsk, tsk... I would have thought it was obvious?! They both love each other and are secretly conspiring to get their post counts WAAAAY higher than they are now... :lol:

Seriously though, hotshot hasn't said a single thing worth reading yet in this thread, and actually comes across as a pre-pubescent teen... and Idol, if you hadn't already guessed, has fuck all else to do but keep these sort of things going for his own amusement :lol:
 
knightm said:
Bitmetv or tvtorrents for sure
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for sure what? i'm yet to find some original material there, seems that everything just gets reshared from hdbits..

...now i better understand all the hate that hdbits has towards invite sellers. their uploaders pay their own money to bring us stuff /and regarding itunes it seems they're on the class of their own/ for free and then some assholes are trying to make profit out of it...
 
1000possibleclaws said:
I've totally lost track of who is trolling who.. One dude is taking incredible offense and spewing nonsense, the other is writing a novel. :huh:
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I wouldn't read that book. I'll wait for the movie.

The question is, do I grab the iTunes release or the cap? I might just wait for the inevitable blu-ray :o
 
kukushka said:
for sure what? i'm yet to find some original material there, seems that everything just gets reshared from hdbits..

...now i better understand all the hate that hdbits has towards invite sellers. their uploaders pay their own money to bring us stuff /and regarding itunes it seems they're on the class of their own/ for free and then some assholes are trying to make profit out of it...
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I'm afraid that I don't understand your point ,that hdbits is supposed to be looked up to because they feel somehow it is their right not to share files ?
Geez some people will buy into anything if they think that it somehow makes them elite.:mellow:
 
What the fuck are you talking about Polarbear?

NSP's sell a service what you choose to do with that service is up to you. Server space and bandwidth don't come cheap!

It's the posters who abuse NSP's by posting to it. You can also download Open source and Freeware software, Linux tarballs, Linux isos and also use it as a bulletin board.

If you read the history and purpose of Usenet it has evolved over the years.

It's not as if p2p trackers require donations to 'help with server fees' in order spread property intellect - scene/p2p releases. Even filehosting websites like Rapidshare, Megaupload, Megashares etc require fees to receive no waiting time, higher download speed and larger hosting space.
 
I see a lot of familiar names in threads I didn't expect... there's alot of hijacking going on... so typical of pirates.

Internet communities are interesting to say the least, private sites are free to setup rules and standards for membership. That includes things that might seem hypocritical or counter intuitive. On the other hand, anyone is free to critique such decisions. Then, there's always the choice to not take part; but things aren't always so simple because it's not all negative or all positive. We take the communities where we see the positive, and push for changes in principle through opinion/discussion/bickering because we'd like for it to become something more suited to our ideal image. If no argument takes place, then that means that there are 1 or less thinkers present.

I'm pretty glad a lot of the itunes stuff can be found on usenet, I prefer it over scene encodes (ctu/immerse/2hd/etc.). Those professional content providers don't always provide the optimum encoding (neither does scene to say the least) strategies, but I assume they're usually working with equivalent or better source. It was easier in some cases to appreciate the web dl over scene (Burn Notice).

Anyways to reiterate the point of this thread, if web dl is the preference, either try to get into one of the recommended private sites or grab yourself a usenet provider.
 
You keep bringing up this power and other bullshit. Nobody on the tracker cares about that shit and more importantly they don't care about anybody not on the site. That's where the divide is, people on forums like this take it so personally even though they are not even on the tracker as if their opinion matters.

You can over analyze every tracker to death and for most of them it just comes down to they just don't give a shit what other people have to say. The reason the rules are in place are to protect the uploader's privacy and nothing more. There is already enough problems that people have to deal with on the site, to add the extra burden of letting the files spread where there is no control over them if they are compromised is just plain stupid
 
Not being smart and then being happy you don't know anything is something that's pretty strange. Congrats at being the laughing stock of this site for basically devoting all your free time to posting useless comments. 12,000 useless comments is really a spectacular achievement. Again you should probably go die.
 
IdolEyes787 said:
You need permission to re-steal something that's already stolen?Criminality is so confusing.
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Its not stolen, we actually buy our own shit.

Dexter will not be on iTunes until after it is already done fully airing and a Bluray release is announced. Same with every premium channel.

If someone is caught sharing the files on another site they will be banned instantly because it is original content that is not to be shared since it is bought by the people on the site. The only thing that is agreed upon is uploading to usenet for everybody to have access to it, uploading to another private site is not allowed.

Also polarbear thinking that iTunes is better than the mpeg2 cap is a myth. It's on a show to show basis, and even more so on an episode to episode basis.
 
hotshot6473 said:
Not being smart and then being happy you don't know anything is something that's pretty strange. Congrats at being the laughing stock of this site for basically devoting all your free time to posting useless comments. 12,000 useless comments is really a spectacular achievement. Again you should probably go die.
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Yet you feel the compunction to reply time and again? Quite a self defeating statement and ironic really... :lol:
 
Aha relying on a crutch is not innovation, bud.

I'm not saying HDbits sucks, cause it doesn't. But read over what you said because it makes little sense as an argument. That rule in itself limits competition by trying to make that specific site exclusive to that content. For example if every HD site bought a bit of content and kept it to themselves, you would all have to be on every site and none of them would succeed in any meaningful progression. I'm sorry to say you don't understand the basic concepts of economic theory. It's like I'm talking to a kid/fanboy and probably both, so I really have nothing more to add that won't result in more frustrating misunderstanding on your part.
 
hotshot6473 said:
You keep bringing up this power and other bullshit. Nobody on the tracker cares about that shit and more importantly they don't care about anybody not on the site. That's where the divide is, people on forums like this take it so personally even though they are not even on the tracker as if their opinion matters.

You can over analyze every tracker to death and for most of them it just comes down to they just don't give a shit what other people have to say. The reason the rules are in place are to protect the uploader's privacy and nothing more. There is already enough problems that people have to deal with on the site, to add the extra burden of letting the files spread where there is no control over them if they are compromised is just plain stupid
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I do know that nothing that I say here will have any effect on that tracker whatsoever , so what then is the big deal if I wish to express my different viewpoint?Because you or others don't happen to agree with it Mr. Goebbels?I think I will need a far better reason than that.
I also don't take anything "personally" .Considering the level of maturity that I am obviously dealing with ,why would I ?
 
Do you know how much profit companies like Giganews or Rapidshare make? We're talking about millions of dollars here. They don't make that money with linux distros. Those companies profit directly from piracy. Nobody would pay for a download service if there weren't any warez to download. Warez that were released to be free.

I know newsgroups since the early 90ies when I used them through my university servers. Usenet today has become a giant warez selling machine run by big corporations.

Anyhow this is pretty much off topic. We already figured out that the best free sources for iTunes releases are HDBits and BitMeTV.
 
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