items during calamities

On 15-Mar-2011, notbob wrote:


Already done that and now well past the point of wanting to have rug-rats
around on a daily basis. If any infants were to visit, crisis or not, they
wouldn't be offered honey-roasted or honey-baked critter.

--
Standing tall, ready to serve
 
On 3/15/2011 8:03 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:

My guess is that there's some folks here that grabbed their car keys and
went to the gas station to top off their tanks the minute they get word
of a big earthquake in Japan.

During the last big quake in Hawaii, about 4 years ago, I got down on
the floor and pressed my cheek to the ground to really feel it. It was a
good quake. These things are so rare here that it's best to soak it all
in - I may not get another chance. Famous last words? :-)
 
Re: [email protected]

J. Clarke wrote:

The Japanese village where thousands were swept away had a thirty minute
warning. There were warnings throughout Japan which is why the death toll
isn't even larger. Unfortunately in that particular village it was bounded
by hills and mountains with just one main road in and out and it quickly
jammed when the warnings went out. Some people survived by simply fleeing to
the hills.

There were places where the tsunami went anywhere from 1 to 6 miles inland,
yet there was indeed adavance warning which saved countless lives, so I'm
very skeptical of your theory.
 
J. Clarke wrote:

That's incorrect. It's true the destruction is limited to the path of the
tornado but it can be much wider than that. We had an F5 go through here in
Ruskin Heights MO in 1957. There are also supercell tornados which are
comprised of clusters of multiple funnels which can be wider than that.

My nephew is a meteorologist at OU who plans and coordinates the activites
of tornado chasers during the season and who creates predictive mathematical
models to determine where to locate chasers. He built his own tornado in a
box in my brother's basement when he was sixteen. And my Dad was a reporter
when the twister hit Ruskin Heights and he took me as a kid to see the
devastation. When it hit, we hid in the basement in our home in Prairie
Village Kansas while the tornado way over in Ruskin did exterior damage in
our neighborhood and blew down structures like towers and fences from a
considerable distance. My mom was freaking out, praying by candlelight like
Hitler at St. Peter's gate. So as a family, we're pretty familiar. I can
assure you, that F5 wasn't any "few hundred feet" across and it rolled for
70 miles.

Here's the Wiki history on that event which was one of the worst tornado
outbreaks on record. You'll see a reference to the F5 being up to a mile
wide at one point. There's plenty more on line if you want to have a look.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1957_Central_Plains_tornado_outbreak

MartyB in KC
 
guys... if you learn that their is another tsunami coming or any
calamity.. what groceries or foods would you prepare for a long
survival..??
--
guiller

I really do get to cooking when a hurricane is likely; if nothing more,
we're going to loose electricity and whatever fragile items that are in the
refrigerator and freezer. We usually have a lot of guests who live at
water's edge and they need to be fed. My first/best calamity cooking is
always banana nut bread. It's good at any temp and any time. Another
'must' is breakfast cookies containing bacon, nuts and raisins.
Other calamity preparations include gas in the vehicle tanks - no
electricity, no pumping is going to happen - and cash. ATMs don't function
without power and some stores cannot handle purchases by plastic if they are
operating by daylight or flashlight.
And ! prescriptions. A calamity is not a good time to run out. Polly
 
"Polly Esther" wrote:

The subject lines states "Items" not just food. Sometimes food may not be a
factor. Running just for your life is a factor. Those that I have read that
went home first to pack supplies got stuck in the tsunami. I do keep
bottled water and granola bars in my pickup at all times.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
 
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:

Another reason for the bicycle is, if a person is good shape they can
travel two miles in ten minutes easy with a loaded bike. A bike can also be
carried over down trees and cut through traffic that may stop a car and a
bike needs no gas. The last tsunami that hit the Asian islands years ago,
some were actually able to physically out run it on foot when they saw the
beach disappear and knew what to do. A good runner can run two miles under
fifteen minutes.

What was interesting I saw a photo of a Japanese family with a wired steel
bench with a fire of broken lumber under it with frying pans on the bench
grates.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
 
Re: [email protected]

J. Clarke wrote:


Compared to "why is the water on the beach going away" it's a hell of a lot
of warning. In a major tsunami, it's pretty damn good and you won't get that
unless the sensor and communications technology is in place, like it is in
Japan. The further away you are the less the strength and drive inland. In
the Indonesian tsunami there could have been more warning but the technology
wasn't there so they only had a scant few minutes. The early warning in
Japan saved tens of thousands of lives.

MartyB
 
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:39:27 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


Thirty minutes... most folks would abandon the bicycle in under than
three minutes, grab what goods they could comfortably carry and hot
foot it up hill... even those who are in good shape from pedaling a
bicycle every day won't last very long pedaling up a steep grade,
especially not all loaded up.
 
On Mar 15, 3:28?am, guiller
wrote:

None. I'd have my car gassed up, and lots of cash on hand. I'd
escape as far away as I could from the peril. My plan would NOT
include food I might not be able to access or cook or store. Could be
all a waste of time and money.
 
Kalmia wrote:

How would you get adequate warning to get that gas and cash? And
don't you think others might also make a beeline for those things?

--
Jean B.
 
"Jean B." wrote:

Maybe Kalmia lives like me. I always fill up just before I arrive
home, and I keep a couple of five gallon gas cans filled in my shed.
Cash is never a problem... I'm used to paying in cash, I've never once
used an ATM but as an adult I can't remember ever leaving home with
less than a Grand in my wallet, with today's interest rates I keep
quite a bit of cash on hand. In a real emergency that requires
leaving the area I'd not concern myself much about food, I'd probably
grab a case of beer from my fridge and all the cans of SPAM and beans
I can carry... and my cats, a litter pan, and cat food, their carriers
too, their meds and mine. I don't need to bring TP, I always have a
couple three rolls of nice soft Bounty paper towels in my car. And
naturally I always have a first aid kit, flashlight, jumper cables,
and a small tool box in my car... I have a hank of nylon rope and a
50' web towing strap with hooks too. I probably have more emergency
stuff already in my car than I can think of right now, I also have an
ice chest in my car.
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:


Well, I generally have at least half a tank of gas, which will get
me pretty far in my Prius. And I have some gas (hmmm, what
octane?) in the garage too. I always use cash, but stopped
carrying emergency money and should rectify that. I usually have
some, er, toiletries in the car. I see I should beef up my
emergency supplies for man and beast and have them housed in such
a way that they can just be grabbed. I wonder how one would
corral three skittish cats quickly?
--
Jean B.
 
David Harmon wrote:

Of course. But if you had a few minutes warning about a calamity,
do you think you would be the only one trying to get more gas and
cash?


--
Jean B.
 
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