Islamic group gives warning to South Park creators for 200th episode...

As of right now, both parts of the Cartoon War are still up on South Park Studio. Which I'm kinda surpise since the Muhammad thing as a subplot.
 
I went on the Zune Marketplace and guess what? Part two of Cartoon Wars has been removed.:mad:

UPDATE: This is weird first it disappeared now its available. Better play it safe. *Downloads*
 
So both 200 and 201 are currently unavailable on Southparkstudios.com citing that they need censors.

How I wish we were France right now >.>

All I have to say is fail!

It might have been reckless to not take these threats seriously, but damnit, this is America. We cant ever allow censorship, especially with the political landscape the way it is.
 
Only a few? So there are only a few "good" exceptions and the rest are indeed terrorists? Is that what you're saying? Huh? HUH?

Nah, I'm just joshing ya. ;)


I live in a large metropolitan area and the part of the city I live in is largely populated by those of Muslim faith. While I myself am not part of that religious leaning (or any, for that matter) I am very confident that at least 99.9% of them are not in any way related to nuts, radicals or terrorists.

It's kind of ridiculous that we even have to say this, because this would never go by unmentioned if we were talking about any other racial or religious group in the same way. :(
 
I think some of it comes down to bias but a lot of it also just comes down to carelessness that one certainly needs to guard against. Nobody ever went wrong with the phase "radical Islamist" in reference to Islamic terrorists and/or their extremist sympathizers, I think.
 
I think this piece of news is high profile mainly because television creators (in the U.S. at least) aren't threatened by Muslims too often. Threats from Judeo-Christian people are a lot more common and so are more readily overlooked.
 
I may just be misunderstanding you, but it seems like you could go wrong with that phrase if you were referring to terrorist who is a self-professed Christian like Eric Rudolph or terrorist of any other religion.
 
Well considering episode 200, it needs to be unavailable until a certain date when the next episode (which was supposed to be 201) is on the site.
 
To the people who think that Matt and Trey should have "respected the Muslim religion" and whatnot, I'm just going to come out and say it...if the Muslim religion means that their sacred figure can't be portrayed while every other religion's one can, and that if you DO portray that figure, you're threatened with death or actually killed.....then maybe the Muslims should change their damn religion.
 
Keep in mind that the only Muslims who've been making death threats over this is an organization of about less then a dozen whack-jobs. No need to go tarring 1.57 billion people with the same brush.
 
I'm talking about this without seeing it myself. And maybe that's the problem.

But, no one really cared much except a bunch of wanna-be’s looking to make a name for themselves?
Maybe because if you see a teddy bear, you’re not thinking that’s a picture of a ancient prophet.

This is the game as I see it. Decide for yourself how well you’ve played.
Jerk radicals are looking to cause trouble.
They pick up on something like this and say “Hey, Western media disrespects the prophet and our beliefs!”
So perhaps there are plenty of islamist who do find a portrayal of Mohammad offensive and feel this offense must be challenged.
However, people in the West see it in terms of censorship. It’s unconscionable to see someone’s freedom of speech be denied.

Look how perfectly we came to an irreconcilable conflict.
To publish is to go against one groups core beliefs, not to publish goes against another groups core beliefs.
The stronger one side defends their position, the more adamant the other side must become.

There is no reason either side has to play this game.

On the Islamic side it may be better to humbly admonish people for being disrespectful instead of making threats. Looking to protect his image so absolutely makes him holier then god, and that just the opposite of what was intended.


On the side of the free speechers, if it wasn’t for this would you ever in a million years want to be throwing up pics of Mohammed?
Especially knowing that it may bother some people.
If they censored calling a minority a bad name, would you be now throwing around racial slurs just because some real jerk wads started the complaint?
Yet this is what’s happening all over the internet.

If you think the jerk wads are bringing pressure on big corporations and your freedom of speech, try living with them. The people they bully best are in their own communities.

It’s a fine line.
Not standing against them gives them power, but being a jerk wad when standing up to them gives them power also, because you’re just confirming it’s an “Us verses Them” confrontation and you've just made a firm Them.

If you need to use a picture to protest, try a picture of a bear costume or something silly instead of something mean or even believable. If people still see that as an ancient prophet… really, dude? That bear?
You do not have to protest by being a jerk wad. If you do that then the jerk wads win.
 
Uh, Aquadementia, just a few years ago these people sentenced a western school teacher to death for allowing her class to name a teddy bear Mohammad (A lot of these people name their sons Mohammad and it?s fine and that was the logic of the children no doubt.) If the governments hadn?t intervened this woman would have been executed over a teddy bear. I believe she still had to serve some sort of lengthy jail sentence any way. These people are not rational people being offended. They WANT To be offended and are ACTIVELY LOOKING for things to claim offense to in order to further their own agenda. That is the point South Park is making..
 
Posting a picture of someone is not comparable to using racial slurs. An expression of speech does not become hate-speech simply because it offends someone.

If Matt and Trey had used South Park to belittle, insult, or in any way express hatred towards members of the Islam faith, this would be an entirely different situation. They didn't. They expressed an opinion, one that certain Muslims happen to disagree with.


As a side note, people have every right to be offended by whatever South Park does, and to express their offendedness (I'll never understand offendedness, I think it requires a mindset that I could never see eye to eye with, but it's still a legitimate feeling to express). They have every right to form petitions about it, or send letters to Comedy Central telling them how offended they are. They have no right to use (or threaten to use) physical violence to get what they want.
 
It said something like:
"due to pre-existing contractual obligations, we cannot stream this episode until: 5/22/10"

it was like that for You Have 0 Friends, 200 and 201. Except 200, and YH0F had different dates.
 
I haven't read every comment so I might be retreading some things:

There have probably been other Muslim groups that have been more politely asking for CC not to do this type of thing without threat of violence long before this group spoke up.

There is always some fringe group threating violence for what ever view.

I want the people here that have been screaming "censorship" and have been showing so much outrage to ask themselves something: if pressure form environmentalist groups lead to a future ManBearPig episode not being aired on TV would your reaction be the same as it is now?
 
Of course it would be absurd if there were a different group and similar conditions. And if they had caved to a violent threat from said environmentalist group or the idea of possible violence, it would be cowardly--not quite as cowardly since there is no equivalent moral lesson to silence in ManBearPig like there was in 201, but cowardly.

What's more, as a Christian there are certain ideas and works that I would take great offense to, but you will never see me declare my right to not be offended or to not even risk being offended. Some Christians hate The Da Vinci Code. That's fine. It's also fine for the book to sell millions of copies because nobody HAS to buy and read it. This is how freedom works. People can express themselves and individuals can take it or leave it. And should a crazy nutjob on my "team" achieve what this Revolution Muslim blogger did for any creation or work of art, I absolutely would be incensed. If the outrage in response to this seems disproportionate to you, realize that its intensity is because of what I described on the blog--censoring of this sort and the support for it isn't brand new, and Comedy Central didn't simply respond to an angry complaint. The issue goes back years and goes beyond just South Park, and the network did what it did out of fear.

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The 201 news is progress, though of course we don't know if it will be censored or not or how much of it will be censored if it is. Also, don't forget Super Best Friends, which has not come back yet.
 
This isn?t about Muslims being sensitive and whatnot.
South Park is about shock value and trying to be edgy by poking fun of just about every cultural taboo imaginable.
Some people can take it,some can?t.
But this time they really took it too far.Not becouse it?s offensive,but becouse they are targeting radical muslim groups,and you don?t even have to think twice what those people might do if this episode gets aired.

Talk about playing with fire...
 
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