Is this so called "stimulus bill" really just a new version of the "New Deal"?

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If you go and read about the "New Deal" set forth by FDR, it started in 1933, and he then gave it more teeth in 1935.Economists today say that although America was in a very deep recession with 25% unemployment, all the "New Deal" did was prolong it. It also created other failed systems such as Fannie May and the Social Security Administration. They say that had nothing been done, America would have probably come out of the recession within a few years as opposed to 8 years. The only thing that broke the Great Depression was WW2. There again, is it going to take another major world war to break this cycle?What's going on today is very parallel to what happened then. It's uncanny. Does our government have any capacity to learn from mistakes made in the historical past?Are we headed into another depression? Reading the history of the "New Deal" it looks like it.
 
For every 1 economist that says TND prolonged the depression there are at least 2 who say it got us out of it.
 
without social security most people would fall apart and die exceot for the few who actually had some money at the end of thier life, the teeming masses would all die in obscurity as soon as they became useless. at least we have some basic workers rights. these same economists are suspect if they suggest that war is the answer to economic recovery. We've been in plenty of wars and it's never created anything but fancy ways to kill people. the apparent succes of war is simply the poor are killed off in large numbers and no longer present a problem to your spreadsheets.
 
No, economists say that FDR did not pump enough into the crisis - and that may have unnecessary prolonged the problem. Only academic failures and college flunkies like Rush, Hannity, and political zealots like the the remaining Republican nitwits in Congress say otherwise - and that is either the result of stupidity or dishonesty (the bedrock characteristics of modern - post Reagan - Republican politics).
 
To answer this question properly one must not only know the history that is written in the books, but must know from being a product of those times of have lived close to them.While it is true that I was born at the end of those times, i can tell of growing up in a period of unrest between the good times of the 'New Deal' and the bad times of WW II.My dad worked W.P.A. and the C.C. Camps as well as being in the National Guard, just to scratch a living. We also had a small farm with 1 cow, a sow and boar hog, 15 head of laying hens and a garden. This was a 5 acre farm with leased pasture. Even after Pop went active in the army when the war started it was still hard, and remained so until well into the '50's for many people.This 'stimulus' is nothing but the 'New Deal' on steroids. The "New Deal didn't work then, and by the way FDR promised a chicken in every pot but only reduced the price of milk cows to $10 and lowered the milk price so low it was cheaper to eat the cow than to milk it, and I still haven't got my chicken!But I digress,. No it didn't work and only the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor saved the nation. Since we are already in an unwindable, 1,000 years war, I can't see a war pulling us out. As our manufacturing base has mostly moved to cheaper lands, I can't see where we can save ourselves through jobs. As for infrastructure jobs, yes they'll put money in the pockets but that money must be generated from some place and that should be from exports, not imports. We are paying places like China to build crap and send it here for us to buy and pay them again for and it is a vicious circle with no healing power.We need Americans manufacturing American goods to sell to ourselves and the rest of the world in order to be able to pull ourselves up by the boot straps and be a free nation, self sustainable once again and this ignorant idea of borrowing and spending ourselves out of debt is only putting us deeper in and heading for bankruptcy and destruction.Are we heading into another depression? I would say, if we are going by 1930 standards, we have passed that point and digging deeper. And, NO, our so called leaders have no capacity to understand history except this bull that was written after the fact, to make us look good.
 
Yes, with much greater catastrophic results. PLEASE take the time to read this:http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/09/GreatMythsOfTheGreatDepression.pdf
 
I can only say History does repeat itself, I guess this is the changeObama and company expressed or eluded to. We are going to changeyou back to the dirty 30's. Depression will rein supreme. It's Going toaffect how I go about my ranching business, Im not breeding morethan 2000 head this spring, I normally do 7000. Im selling off a lotof brood cows. Not going to take the chance, We have moved a lot of them to Costa Rica, to a sister farm of mine down there, Time torein in spending, Cut back on cost, And sit this one out, When allis said and done. I hope no one suffers as much as the folks didway back when, There is going to be a lot of pain, And Obama andPelosi and Reid are going to be in the drivers seat, So when youare looking for your next meal a year or less from now. Think realhard why you voted for this outfit. You will have deserved what you got.
 
"For every 1 economist that says TND prolonged the depression there are at least 2 who say it got us out of it." And yet almost every single economist states that the main factor that pulled us out of the depression was WWII. We were in a recession prior to the spending then once all the governmental work camps started we fell into the depression. After that we saw the growning war in Europe, once this started US ship building, tank manufaturing, and all went up. Once the war hit nearly every single American was working to build Jeeps, Tanks, Planes, weapons, ammunition, or fighting in the war itself. After the war people started to buy the tools made for the war and we saw the airling industry explode, the automobile has many new improvements and the introduction to the masses of the Jeep. War saved us that time. Why are we constantly repeating history instead of learning from it?
 
..This will bill was constructed by very mentally ill acting people, Pelosi & Reed. And Obama isn't even bothering to read the darn thing...plus he made sure NOBODy would have time to read it. Only a DISHONEST person would rush in like a dishonest sales man trying to seal a deal without allowing you to even read what you are signing......I guess we will have to bail out Congress next for getting into a Sub prime Stimulus Bill because they were being taken advantage of by money hungry politicians...sound familiar? I would vote to fire the whole crew and start over if I had my way!
 
The stage certianly has been set, (including a build up to possible world war).This stimulus bill (not unlike the stimulated Bill from a couple administrations ago) will do nothing good for the country. And is every bill the democrats wanted over the last ever so many years anyway. It's like they won the lottery and will spend every cent on things that will only make them feel good until all the money is gone and then we have nothing but an over inflated government. Oh and then next year, they will claim that they cut the budget because they only spent 3 trillion dollars. this is what a trillion dollars looks like. $1,000,000,000,000.00
 
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