Is it important to be calm, polite and rational when arguing with creationists?

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I suppose.

If you're going to have a discussion about science, it should remain on the intellectual level. But to be quite frank with you, I also think arguing creationists is ultimately a waste of time. Creationism is not an honest scientific position. Those who hold on to it are less interested with facts than with preserving their world view. Rational enquiry and consistency take the back-seat to a world-vision that provides emotional reassurance. It seldom has anything to do with science or knowledge at all.

I mean, I'll answer their questions as well, and I'll try to explain the science, but deep down, I know someone who is asking this is really hoping for more reassurance. They're hoping if they can stomp you, that will justify their world view. If they can't, they'll find a way to ignore whatever explanation you give them, or to invalidate it.
 
When I was a kid, I remember arguing with religious adults by asking them questions that I thought would stump them or at least frustrate them, but most of the time they responded calmly and politely albeit with some gibberish about their imaginary god. I’ve noticed that now when I argue with creationists, they are the ones who ask me questions that they think will stump me or frustrate me and I’m the one responding in a calm and polite manner. Do you find this role reversal as interesting as I do?
 
no, people become passionate about their beliefs in arguments such as these. it's just hard to convince you because you already know everything. if yout go into the discussion with an open mind, respectful of one anothers opinions, it should be beneficial to both sides to talk about this. you never talked with me about it, I would welcome that conversation and I culd listen and respect your point of view. I would expect that we could exchange thoughts, fact and ideologies whether we agreed or not. we would then agree to disagree, and continue on greeting and chatting with each other daily. this is how it should be done, this is the way i have been taught to do it through studying Gods word.
 
It's important to be calm, polite, and rational in any argument, religious or otherwise. Calling someone's God imaginary is definitely not a good way to express your point.
 
There's little point being rational with creationists, their entire worldview is based on irrationality. Being calm and polite is probably more helpful to you than to them, since it means you walk away merely frustrated, rather than angry, embarrassed and frustrated.
 
No. Not particularly. This role reversal is only one of many up-side-down observances. All are in keeping with the times in which we live. I think that perhaps we should spend more time understanding the reference book and less time making up our own stories regarding our origin.
 
No. Not particularly. This role reversal is only one of many up-side-down observances. All are in keeping with the times in which we live. I think that perhaps we should spend more time understanding the reference book and less time making up our own stories regarding our origin.
 
you should always be polite, but if you are naturally calm and rational, please stay away from creationists.
think about this: if they were able to listen to a sensible argument, and to reflect upon it, they would no longer be creationists.
so you might as well move to spain and chase windmills.
 
Back then, unfortunately most people did not have the education they have now. People really truly believed in god, and thought the ones who didn't believe, just didn't know. Now however, we are more educated, and we have better arguments against the creationists. This frustrates them, and instead of appearing to look stupid, they lash out.
That's my take on it anyway...
 
I don't know, I usually end up laughing my head of at their oxymoron arguments and circular logic.

If people state ridiculous things as fact they should expect ridicule. Pandering to it is only giving them false hope. lol :)

Practicing Shaman... quantum physics rocks.
 
no, people become passionate about their beliefs in arguments such as these. it's just hard to convince you because you already know everything. if yout go into the discussion with an open mind, respectful of one anothers opinions, it should be beneficial to both sides to talk about this. you never talked with me about it, I would welcome that conversation and I culd listen and respect your point of view. I would expect that we could exchange thoughts, fact and ideologies whether we agreed or not. we would then agree to disagree, and continue on greeting and chatting with each other daily. this is how it should be done, this is the way i have been taught to do it through studying Gods word.
 
no, people become passionate about their beliefs in arguments such as these. it's just hard to convince you because you already know everything. if yout go into the discussion with an open mind, respectful of one anothers opinions, it should be beneficial to both sides to talk about this. you never talked with me about it, I would welcome that conversation and I culd listen and respect your point of view. I would expect that we could exchange thoughts, fact and ideologies whether we agreed or not. we would then agree to disagree, and continue on greeting and chatting with each other daily. this is how it should be done, this is the way i have been taught to do it through studying Gods word.
 
it is important in any discussion.

Is it important for you to engage in a conversation in which you pre-determined that you will not change your opinion, while keeping a sense of superiority with the other person if the viewpoint is different from yours?
 
Take a trip down to your local insane asylum, many of the patients there are actually pretty calm and relaxed (possibly due to drugs though).

They will stick to their beliefs regardless of what you tell them, but it's really no point arguing with them and you feel too much pity to laugh at them.
 
Take a trip down to your local insane asylum, many of the patients there are actually pretty calm and relaxed (possibly due to drugs though).

They will stick to their beliefs regardless of what you tell them, but it's really no point arguing with them and you feel too much pity to laugh at them.
 
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