Is Bush a fisical moderate?

Why is it that the people who serviced, built and used such machines all agree that the font existed at the time?

The people that were consulted that said the font didn't exist didn't even use them.
 
Yet for some strange reason I'm better at speaking English.


The US has already given materials to make WMD's to Saddam in the past, so he wouldn't be the first.


Ah yes, it's always better to have Iraqi civilians die than Americans.


He had them, note the past tense. He didn't have them anymore. And as for the 'shipped them to Syria' myth:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154574,00.html
 
A lot of his shipmates disagree with you on that one (120 swiftboat vets and fellow officers)and of course we are still waiting for him to release his form 180 (that he never will do) that proves his merits the medals he got..........

As far the the president ...Flying and F102 jet fighter is not no simple thing........As far as his record goes, didn't you liberals get enough egg on your face with the CBS Dan rather thing? All i know is the man has a DD214 that says he was honorably discharged and that is good enough for me.........



Weekend warrior huh..Now you are putting down the National Guard.........The same national Guard that is fighting and dying in Iraq to give you the opportunity to ridicule them..................

So very sad Hydra..........I thought you were better then that........
 
Oh heck yeah, he was busy flying jets over the skies of the U.S.A.; keeping us safe from all of those Viet Cong that were infiltrating our skies. LOL

Today's Guard has a reason to be worried; they are nothing but meat to be shot at in Iraq; an un-called for war. If you were the age you claim, you would know that the National Guard went into combat, with college students.

Tin soldiers and Nixon comin'
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drummin'
Four dead in Ohio
 
Thinking that the leader of your country is also the leader of the free world is laughable at best and downright scary at worst.

Here's a hint:

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America is not the world!
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As for the subject of this thread, if GW Bush is a fiscal moderate then I'm a black lesbian Jewish NBA player.
 
Are these the clowns you gave money to ?
Swift Boat Smears



Thursday, August 12, 2004; Page A22


DEMOCRATIC nominee John F. Kerry has made his tour of duty in Vietnam -- a stint in which he earned three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star -- a centerpiece of his presidential campaign. To the extent, then, that there are legitimate questions about Mr. Kerry's behavior -- either in Vietnam or back home as a prominent antiwar activist -- those are fair game. Mr. Kerry's four-plus months in Vietnam made for an unusually short tour. He used his third Purple Heart to go home early, and his wounRAB were relatively superficial. Some veterans remain understandably bitter about Mr. Kerry's antiwar statements; indeed, the candidate himself has said he would rephrase some of his more cutting accusations about U.S. troops committing war crimes.

But a new assault on Mr. Kerry -- in an ad by a group calling itself Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and in a new book -- crosses the line in branding Mr. Kerry a coward and a liar. This smear is contradicted by Mr. Kerry's crew mates, undercut by the previous statements of some of those now making the charges and tainted by the chief source of its funding: Republican activists dedicated to defeating Mr. Kerry in November.

"John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam," says George Elliott, Mr. Kerry's former commanding officer. But it was then-Lt. Cmdr. Elliott who recommended Mr. Kerry for the Silver and Bronze stars, commending him as "calm, professional and highly courageous in the face of enemy fire." In a 1969 evaluation Mr. Elliott had this to say: "In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action, LTJG Kerry was unsurpassed."

"I know John Kerry is lying about his first Purple Heart because I treated him for that injury," says Dr. Louis Letson. Dr. Letson isn't listed on Mr. Kerry's medical record at the time. That doesn't disprove his claim to have treated Mr. Kerry, who received a superficial shrapnel injury to his arm. But neither does the account of Dr. Letson or others about the incident indicate that Mr. Kerry was lying. Mr. Kerry's wound doesn't seem to have amounted to much, but he didn't claim it did -- nor does that make him ineligible for a Purple Heart.

The most potentially damning accusation in the ad concerns the the best-known episode of Mr. Kerry's service, in which he saved the life of Jim Rassmann after the Special Forces officer was blown off Mr. Kerry's Swift boat by a mine explosion. Three people quoted in the ad, all of whom say they were present that day, March 13, 1969, assert that Mr. Kerry ordered his craft to flee the danger and turned around to rescue Mr. Rassmann only after the shooting stopped. "John Kerry lied to get his Bronze Star . . . I know, I was there, I saw what happened," says Van O'Dell, a retired Navy enlisted man. "His account of what happened and what actually happened are the difference between night and day," says Jack Chenoweth, who commanded a different Swift boat. "When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry," says Larry Thurlow, another Swift boat commander.

If accurate, this would demolish a central part of the picture of Mr. Kerry as Vietnam hero. But the weight of the evidence supports Mr. Kerry. Mr. Rassmann, having had no contact with Mr. Kerry for the previous 35 years, came forward during the primaries to tell the story of how Mr. Kerry, braving enemy fire and with an injured arm, pulled him back on board. "John came up to the bow, and I thought he was going to get killed because he was so exposed," Mr. Rassmann recalled. Other surviving crew mates corroborate that account. "I was there," crew mate Del Sandusky told CNN. "I saw the bullets skimming across the water. I saw the firefight gun flashes from the jungle. I know the firefight and the ambush we were in." Another crew mate, James Wasser, told ABC: "What boat were you riding on? Because you weren't there -- we were."

It's also relevant to know who's underwriting this advertising campaign. The biggest single donor so far to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth isn't a Swift boat veteran but one of the leading Republican donors in Texas. Houston builder Bob J. Perry gave the group $100,000, accounting for the bulk of the $158,000 in receipts it has reported. It's fair to ask whether truth is at the top of this group's agenda.
 
Voice of Reason:

So you think the Liberals (as usual) are to blame for budget problems by blocking the Bush budgets? Its as simple as Republican right, Democrat wrong, Liberal wrong, Conservative right? Then I think you are in over your head here.

Who signed off on an 800 percent increase in pork projects? Gee Dubya. Who was responsible for most of the pork? Republicans. Who pushed us into war with a lie about WMD? Gee Dubya. Who is consistently going above the funding the president wants on different bills? Republicans. Bush is threatening to veto the Highway Bill because the Republicans are thumbing their nose at their own president in order to go billions over budget for more pork projects. This would be the very first veto on over spending Bush has ever attempted.

George Bush started business with probable insider trading to profit while his company went bankrupt. He started as Governor with a substantial surplus and left with a substantial deficit. He started as President with a substantial surplus and currently is in his third consecutive year of record breaking deficits. You could present his life history as the anti Midas touch. King Midas touched things and they turned to gold. When Bush gets involved, everything turns into huge debts.

The basic point to make about our current national debt soon to top $8 trillion is that there is a point of no return, when it becomes humanly impossible to pay back on the debt with a plan of substantially reducing it. The interest alone will kill the any effort at fiscal management.
 
When are you ever right? Oh yes, never. You've clearly avoiding discussing the actual deal. The CBS piece of "evidence" were neither proven to be true, or false. The people who worked with the machines said the fonts existed. Those who were consulted for such articles never worked on them, yet said they didn't have the font.

You have also completely failed to clarify why you said Bush was a fisical moderate then flip flopped and voted he wasn't
 
I believe President Bush is a fiscal conservative........The things that have happened during his adminstration like 9/11/01 and 2 wars have made him a bigger spender then he wanted to be...........

Moderates and Liberals sure do not push the tax cuts that he has given us..........Only Fiscal Conservatives like Reagan and Kennedy do that...........

I know Libs would love to paint him as a big spended but true Conservatives know the truth...........
 
My thoughts are that a fiscal moderate is someone who's not spending to beat the band, but not totally holding back all monies either.

Based on that, Bush is NOT fiscally moderate, in his first term he created more debt than Clinton was able to pay off in 8 years.
 
SounRAB familiar...........were you there at the anti US/military protests in the sixties burning the American Flag...........I don't expect you to admit it if you were.........
 
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