Iraq, lets hear from the DEMS. Without your normal ranting about Bush.?

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Define your personal position on Iraq. How much money has it cost
you directly. Have you lost a job over the war. Explain how it has
affected you personally. Have you lost a loved one, A relative, A
neighbor. Have you found yourself waking up at night in cold sweats
screaming about the republicans and the War. Have you woke up
late at night asking why there have been more Gang and Black
related killings in L.A, County than all The KIAS in Iraq,
and Afghanistan, I would really like to here from the Obama supporter,
the left wing pacifist, the left wing socialist, And lets never forget the
New age liberal. So whats you call on the war DEMS.
John Gibson I retired a SOCOM:SGM
18z97z Combat weapons specialist,
and Field Intelligence Agent. I have been
to the MID East more times than you
could want to Imagine. I gave one Son
to this fight in Mosul 2004. I respect
your views. But Under No circumstance
ever challange mine. We are a Gold
Star family. With One member still active
in Afghanistan. So thanks for the thought.
Speaking of 9 trillion dollars that remotely sounds like the amount
the dems have thrown away on there
virtual war on Poverty BS.
 
Everyone is still sleeping well in their beds at night without another attack,
Thank you President Bush and the troops.
 
Democrats break into a cold sweat when they think the Iraq war may in fact be ended in victory. They have short-term memory problems & don't bother reading history books. The men and women who gave their lives are low in numbers compared to World War I or World War II, or the Viet Nam war. This war has done more for security in this world of fanatic Islamic terrorists than anyone can imagine.

The Iraqis want a timetable for U.S. withdrawal. So does Barack Obama. The difference is that Iraq is stepping up to the plate while Obama just wants to take our bat and ball and go home.

The May 2008 report card to Congress, whose own ratings are in single digits, shows Iraq has satisfactorily made progress on 15 of 18 so-called benchmarks. Iraqi forces have gained control of the city of Basra and the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City, routing the Mahdi Army of Muqtada al-Sadr.

The Iraqi forces have showed initiative and competence. The Iraqi nation is ready for prime time. Considering the history of their country, this moment is positively astonishing.

Obama's Web site still says: "Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months."

He will do his best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We have brought democracy to the Middle East. Obama would bring abandonment and chaos.
 
You cannot discuss Iraq without mentioning Bush since he is the person most responsible for it.

The neocons’ Iraq/Middle East plan started as a stupid idea doomed to failure, but it did not necessarily have to be a total catastrophic failure (that was Bush’s personal contribution).

Every non-partisan Middle East expert in the world predicted that the most likely outcome of invading Iraq would be a civil war and regional destabilization. Actually, anyone with the slightest real knowledge of the region knew this to be true.

The President’s own father knew it and said so in his 1998 book, ‘A World Transformed’. In it, he - Bush the Wiser - explains why invading Iraq and removing Hussein from power would:

1.result in America becoming stuck in a no-win Vietnam-like quagmire;
2.result in America losing its friends and allies;
3.result in America losing its standing in the world and its ability to lead and influence international political events;
4.result in jeopardizing America’s own interests in the Middle East, undoing decades of intense effort to put ourselves in a position to be politically effective in the region;
5.result in increased hardship for both those who live in the Middle East and America’s own citizens; and
6.further destabilize the already volatile region with the possibility of causing regional (or greater) armed conflict.

If Bush had listened to his real father instead of the imaginary one he hears in his head we would not be in this mess.

Or, he could have listened to:

Colin Powell (then Secretary of State) who told Dubya, “If you break it [Iraq], then you own it”; or

the first Gulf War commander, "Stormin" Norman Schwarzkopf, who said that if America invaded Iraq it would be a, “dinosaur in a tar pit”.

Conservatives rag on liberals for not having a plan (which is true, they don’t) to hide the fact that they also do not have – and never have had – a plan either. The fact is that there is no ‘plan’ that produces a single positive for America. We are going to leave; the only question is when. Politically, and in terms of Iraq’s future, leaving tomorrow or next year is no different that if we had left yesterday or last year.

Well, there is the difference of the numbers of wounded and dead; the families destroyed; and the further loss of America’s standing in the world by staying. At least that is the conclusion reached in recent reports by the US Department of State and a consensus of America’s 16 Intelligence Agencies. But what do they know, huh?

Maybe the Bush strategy of endlessly screwing ourselves will ultimately bring the terrorists to their knees – in laughter, anyway.

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bwlobo –

Here is the summary of the June 5, 2008 CRS Report for Congress:

Iraq: Reconciliation and Benchmarks
Kenneth Katzman
Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs
Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division

•“Iraq’s current government, the result of a U.S.-supported election process designed to produce democracy, is instead a sectarian government incapable of reconciliation. The Administration says that the passage of some key laws represents progress on national reconciliation, and is a result of the U.S. “troop surge.” Others say that combat among Shiite groups since March 2008, possibly motivated by provincial elections planned for October 2008, shows that force will not stabilize Iraq. See CRS Report RL31339, Iraq: Post-Saddam Governance and Security, by Kenneth Katzman.”

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS21968.pdf
 
I'm not a democrat or a republican, those are both puppet forms of government. The Iraq war has cost America its conscience, not to mention 9 trillion dollars of tax payers money. THe iraq war is a scam. 911 was a controlled demolition with cooked up intelligence by the Bush admininstration to send the country to war agaisnt the towle heads. There is a greater truth than this lie they have been feeding you.
 
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