IMAGiNE

imagines site is already up and running but you will find invites very hard to come by

0m3n :: you are part right in what you are saying with the file sharing but its probaly just easier to have a meeting point imo

If they need a meeting point then an irc channel is a meeting point and a forum is too, trust me, they must have thought "we're famous RGs and VIPs on some sites, what do we need right now to satisfy our overinflated egos? Hey, we should make an uber-mega-1337 tracker, so we would not only be famous Release Groups but also Sys-ops and Admins of a leet tracker for VIPs only...
And if we could make a few bucks out of it later on, it woudln't be bad either"
That's all...

Don't get me wrong, I like their work and I respect all their efforts and all the time they spend releasing their encodes, but I'm not stupid and neither are many of the senior BT members who can see clear in their game.
 
i'm not being miserable. I'm just expressing my honest opinion, and also pointing out his error.

I've always hated those type of brand new "super secret elite" sites that are hungry for members, yet expect that nobody is going to talk about them. It's just plain idiocy. Then, to join a forum and announce that you don't want the url of your site mentioned there because it has shit members and then act surprised that you're not treated with respect... How dumb is that?
qft.
 
(...) ... if you cant say something nice ....dont say anything .
This would defeat the reason for the entire human experience.

That really doesn't make any sense. I apologise, but FST is not like TPS.
 
This would defeat the reason for the entire human experience.

I dont know what experience you want out of life, but if I walked up to someone and talk the way some of the users here do .... I'd expect to get the experience of a punch in the mouth .
Sitting and hiding behind a keyboard is not a "human experience".
Thats all from me , next time I post it'll be to give you (that want it ) the info your waiting for .
 
I can see why you would think this way, and I would react similarly, too. Whether you believe me or not, I thought about it over and over, but the simple fact that I have no source for IMAGiNE releases (which I usually enjoy) overpowered my worries of maintaining another tracker. I'm not a TL member for reasons I mentioned before, so realistically, I only had choices between IPT and Public Trackers, both of which I know people who got letters due to downloading from. Having a place to actually get these releases is a pain I don't have to endure any longer.

I duly apologize for going back on my word.
Now I think Idoleyes and ringhunter are taking torrenting a little too seriously :ermm:
 
9. I do not claim to be high up on the ladder over at IMAGiNE tracker I am simply a Moderator that loves p2p and what it stands for, and what IMAGiNE and other p2p groups bring to the table

I nearly fell of my chair laughing at how hypocritical that sounds :lol:

You love p2p and all it stands for? Except for the fact your beloved p2p groups are going against all p2p stands for by refusing peoples right to share.

Congratulations... IMAGiNE's 'new p2p tracker' now sounds decidedly more 'scene' than p2p... "the rips are ours, no one should be getting them, don't invite anyone, ain't we all super 1337". Why not just scrap the tracker, sell leech slots on your own topsite and just all hail to each other in iRC?

Problem solved, might as well 'sell out' honestly instead of through the back door, or rethink some of your BT values :)
 
Deadalive1 beat me to it. There is no way to prove either the staff or a random person did it, but it stands to reason that under the absence of proof, neither should be accused. I don't understand why people readily jump ship and say the staffers contacted FSF, when it's just as likely another random member did with the myriad of information in this thread. If someone points a finger, they better have some evidence/backing to their argument, and so far, everyone in this thread that has accused their staff of promoting their own website has failed to provide any such items of interest.

@ringhunter
Someone/A group releasing exclusive rips or he/she/them being internal encoders where membership is restricted to some is not the main cause of all this hate here,now is it?The problem is when these people go around restricting the members from sharing these release with others they want to share it with.Wanting so badly to be the "Scene in p2p"?:lol:

You and I won't see eye to eye on this particular case. I have a giant list of reasons for it, but safe to say, I belong to the "uploaders risk their social liberty to get stuff out to us, we should respect the rules they set on the material" camp. Many a country have no laws on downloading, but they do restrict uploading etc. As such, I've always deemed it the lowest possible form of gratitude to respect an uploader's wish to maintain exclusives where they were released/intended for. There is nothing wrong with that outlook, and if you truly think there is, then ask yourself why the FLAC ripping scene hasn't been torn apart by people scrambling/racing around the rips. With the exception of W&W, every DDL board/tracker/blog maintains its own releases, with very few examples shown where exclusivity was questioned/the request of the uploader was ignored. It isn't about being "scene in p2p" or going against the fundamentals the protocol was based on, it's more about respect/and knowing the value of one's word and putting the security of those who need it (but risk it) as a priority. If you find that inane, that's your opinion, but why deprive someone who values such things of his only wish?

I see a lot of groups that consider certain sites their "home", and so their releases are called "exclusive" to that site since it's where they're posted first, but those releases are spread far and wide once they're posted on said sites, and I don't see any attempt to control that from happening from a majority of the well-known groups. Maybe I've missed all the "Don't share our releases anywhere" messages from those major groups?

You and I both know that it's much harder to police larger trackers/swarms, especially when a lot of them don't have a single initial seeder. However, I do agree with you that generally no effort is put forth in stopping the spread/racing of P2P releases around. I still don't see why people think it's such a breaking point when a group decides to change a very insignificant part of their illicit actions to better suit themselves. You will still be getting the releases you have always intended to hunt down, you just won't be getting some that you weren't going to get anyway.

Above all, I will repeat this again. They are not trying to be 1337/hidden/stop people from getting their content. They actually have recruitment/interview debates going on in the forums, because they genuinely want to share their files, but they value security. Surely everyone can argue that once you put something on the internet, it's a privacy travesty waiting to occur, but at the same time, there's nothing wrong with wanting the best of both worlds when it comes to a healthily sized member-base as well as a secure one. If any person finds such a concept unappealing, said person might want to reconsider where they choose to argue this point.
 
It's rather fun watching this ...

@ Ringhunter: You claim not to be part of any trackers that have IMAGINE-releases, yet I know of 2 trackers that have their releases, and I know for a fact you are a member there too?
 
Ok just to clear it up, here's how it goes:

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You knew the "leak" was going to happen. It's a bit tough to pretend people not to sign up when the site has this discussion thread on FST and you've also contacted sharky to talk about the tracker on FSF. Pretending otherwise is just childish.
 
@ Ringhunter: You claim not to be part of any trackers that have IMAGINE-releases, yet I know of 2 trackers that have their releases, and I know for a fact you are a member there too?

Right, you're referring to the ones that were started/staffed by the same people, I'm assuming. If so, then yes, but they are in no way offering a comprehensive set of releases. Most of the time they only house one or two of the releases, and those die or are trumped promptly when a different version/reason to delete them is given. The problem is, and I know this may sound weird, I actually prefer to have my options open, with all the "10-20 P2P releases" that everyone seems to hate on. Towards the end of the TSing/Camming phase of any movie's life, there's usually so many edits done to the movie, it's a borderline curves/contrast atrocity.

Moreover, when I say IMAGiNE it's just a generalization. There are other groups hopping on board, too, such as FLAWL3SS/Silentninja/TOXiC etc. And whether you choose to believe me or not, I do sometimes hunt down their releases specifically, considering they each tweak the settings to their liking, and I don't consistently prefer any particular group/person. When the two ratioless trackers came up with their "p2p or not" debates, I asked for both FLAWL3SS/IMAGiNE in both cases, because I do tend to jump camps more often than not.
 
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