Imagine no teabaggers

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Shot From Guns said:
So, care to make an argument there, or are you just gonna point and go, "NUH-UH"? Because if you want, we can do that back and forth all day, and in the end I'll still come away looking better, since I'm the one who started with an actual point instead of just an unsupported denial.
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I think you got wrapped up emotionally by reading the more confrontative posts and thus misread my reply. I wasn't attacking you, I was only pointing out that althoug it would be nice if wilful ignorance wasn't your problem, or mine, that's just not the case. Wilful ignorance will affect you, and you don't want it to, so it IS your problem. And mine. And everyone elses.
 
Opinions are not persecuted minorities. Where did conservatives ever get the idea that they are?
 
Wishing death on groups, particularly when the only point of wishing them dead is to avoid hearing their viewpoints, is dumb.

Calling an entire movement racist when there is little evidence that the movement, as opposed to a few notable members, even cares about race, is dumb.

These are not the only dumb comments, but they are salient.

Since this thread started in the pits and has moved right along, I am going to give it a more appropriate home.

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xtisme said:
Imagine if the same thing happened to all the Liberals, or all of the Greens, etc etc. Would America be better off? I suppose it depends on one's perspective and political bent.
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Well, I think it likely that losing the Teabaggers would be less damaging to America's gene-pool, by objective, quantifiable, nonpartisan measures. Completely non-provable WAG, of course. (And really there are no perfectly "nonpartisan" value-free measures of what hereditary characteristics are eugenic or dysgenic, that always implies a value judgment of some kind, but that's another debate . . .)
 
The Facts said:
The people who are disproportionaly represented in the teabaggers are all useless elements to society: religious idiots, racists, and morons . . .
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Uh . . . do you actually have some kind of rational reason to make this statement? I mean, is it actually based on anything factual?
 
Damuri Ajashi said:
Pre-emptive genocide. Cool. Why not wait until they actually start killing people.
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Self-defense. Should I wait until I get shot at before firing? As far as I'm concerned, they've had me in their sights and are waiting until November to pull the trigger.
 
DianaG said:
Now there's something I'd like a cite for.
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From Sasha Abramsky's recent article "Look Ahead in Anger," Chronicle of Higher Education:

A recent poll conducted by AP-GfK has found that 28 to 30 percent of all respondents sympathize with the Tea Party, although another poll, by The New York Times, found that only 18 to 20 percent did so. Whatever the number, clearly many millions of Americans are attracted to the movement.
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Sounds like impressive numbers!

Still, of course, bear in mind . . .

Kyle: Anybody who thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy is a retard.

Cartman: Oh, really? Well, did you know that over one-fourth of people in America think that 9/11 was a conspiracy? Are you saying that one-fourth of Americans are retards?

Kyle: Yes, I'm saying one-fourth of Americans are retards.

Stan: Yeah, at least one-fourth.

Kyle: Lets take a test sample. (to Cartman) There's 4 of us, you're a retard, and that's one-fourth.
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YogSosoth said:
Self-defense. Should I wait until I get shot at before firing? As far as I'm concerned, they've had me in their sights and are waiting until November to pull the trigger.
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What's the scenario for Tea Partiers killing you? How are they going to do it?
 
YogSosoth said:
Self-defense. Should I wait until I get shot at before firing? As far as I'm concerned, they've had me in their sights and are waiting until November to pull the trigger.
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So, you're in proposing a pre-emptive strike?
 
Condescending Robot said:
In the way that yelling "fuck you" on the highway is a small step from rape. This confusion between idle words and criminal actions is infantile.
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Infantile? Look up "Death threat" in wikipedia, and you can see that perps often write with thinly veiled code, not that the OP is launching a death threat himself. No, he was saying, gee it wouldn't be a bad thing if people I don't like just died-- if you know what I mean +. This is unhinged talk radio stuff.

It's not hard. Calls for the death of thousands are outside the bounds of civilized discussion. Your example of a profanity is laughable: there are clearly distinctions between explicatives and declarative statements -- and the OP wasn't just swearing.
 
The Facts said:
So if the Nazis were marching, you'd celebrate their "different point of view?" If the Klan was marching down your street, burning crosses and screaming "kill the niggers", you'd try to have reasoned debate?
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I don't equate 'teabaggers' with Nazis, though obviously you do. To answer your silly question, I'd probably have no more to do with them if they were Nazis than I would if they were Commies. As they are neither, and as they seem to be at least a marginal political force in the US, I'd say that at least trying to reason with them would get you further than simply and childishly wishing they were dead. If nothing else, then having them alive to say stupid shit and to discredit them should have some appeal.

Der Trihs said:
Because they are unreasonable, and because compromise with rightwingers doesn't work. The Democrats and now Obama have been making that mistake for years; trying to reason with lunatics and compromise with the uncompromising only leads to disaster.
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Diogenes the Cynic said:
Not all viewpoints deserve respect or debate. Teabaggers are basically the Klan. What is there to talk about?
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It's ironic that they say similar things about Liberals, no? And in similar over the top ways too. Well...it's ironic to ME, anyway. :p

-XT
 
Rand Rover said:
That's just all you understand because that's all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
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To be fair, he's also an ultra-liberal Muslim socialist Nazi who wants to raise your taxes and take away your guns, and the only reason that there's no actual evidence for any of that is because he's cleverly biding his time until America's guard is down.
 
pkbites said:
Imagine if somebody started a similar thread, but instead of teabaggers said blacks or Hispanics. And then went on how, yes a few police officers and useful people like that would be among them, but then there would be less crime and therefor less need for cops.

I wonder how long the Mods would allow such a hateful thread to stay open.
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This thread is kind of dumb, but...

Diogenes the Cynic said:
It's pretty stupid to try to compare a political group (especially a racist one) to a racial minority.
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This. Pretty big false equivalency there.

But I love the teabaggers. Their long term effect on the GOP is gonna be a good one....for us liberals. Maybe even short term too. Keep them alive.
 
ElvisL1ves said:
Sure can, just can't be arsed, not for someone on your level.

Now go do some homework, as already recommended.
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I sympathize, really I do. Being President, Treasurer, and Chief Box-Gobbler of the Hillary Fan Club is obviously a demanding set of roles, and it's perfectly understandable that you might, in all the hurly-burly, lose some perspective. But no matter how much your own butt hurt--- and I know it hurt very, very badly--- when Hillary lost, you can't project your own sphincteric anguish onto the public at large.

Mind you, I'm not minimizing your pain. You were sore, red, throbbing, and justifiably angry. But it's a question of frequency and volume, not intensity. If the contest were "who's angrier over criticism of their candidate," Hillary would win hands-down because you'd single-handedly blow the curve.

But the question is "who's taken more shit?" So come on. Let's not even pretend.

(Spoken, incidentally, as someone who is currently quite disenchanted with Obama and feels that he fully deserves a lot of shit, just not of the type we're discussing.)
 
Shot From Guns said:
So? Willful ignorance isn't my fucking problem.
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I wish you were right but that is just completely untrue.

Lamar Mundane said:
I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it's likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas.
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And in order to win back the votes 'normal' republicans will move even further to the right. Which will cause some republicans switching to the democrats. Which will mean that democrats become more right-leaning AND republicans become more right-leaning.
 
Sam Stone said:
In other words, you want 50 million Americans to die, because they are 'hateful'. Got it. Thanks for the heads-up, Mother Theresa.
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Lives don't have intrinsic meaning or value. If they die, so what? Better for the rest of us

It's fact that they practice and believe in an evil ideology full of hatred and vile shit that, if seperated from politics, would relegate their mob to the lowest of special interest groups like the KKK or NAMBLA. They take pride in their ignorance and believe in a pretty face full of vapid, retarded ideas and react with vehement denial every time that is pointed out to them. Tea Baggers are so stupid they couldn't even pick a name without an obvious sexual connotation. They are a mostly homogenous group of scared white people who have weathered the progress of the 21st century and a black president with all of the stability of a riot. Their leaders call for violence and death, their Congressmen pray to god to smite their enemies, they would rather hurt themselves and the country if only it means a slight diminishment of their political opponents.

So yes, I want them to die. They are nothing more than a lynch mob bound together by shared hatred and fear. They stand for nothing because they've stood for the contrary just a few years into their past. They are rioters given power and they deserve nothing except swift annihilation
 
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