Imagine no teabaggers

[xtisme]

Why either? Why not imagine them simply as having a different point of view and seeing if reasoned debate is possible...and compromise? Why does everyone have to think the same or be the same or have the same view point or perspective? Why would that be a good thing?

-XT

 

[Damuri Ajashi]

Because they are unreasonable, and because compromise with rightwingers doesn't work. The Democrats and now Obama have been making that mistake for years; trying to reason with lunatics and compromise with the uncompromising only leads to disaster.

I've tried having discussions with these teabaggers at their rallies and the problem is that every last one of them were 200% sure about the things they believed. They all had piles of data, but there was always one piece of incorrect data that made their entire position wrong. A big one was convincing people that Tarp was passed under Bush. When I pulled out my iphone to show them the TARP wiki page, they resorted to the "well I'm not a Republican either, we need to get rid of all of them (but starting with the Democrats)"

Calling an entire movement racist when there is little evidence that the movement, as opposed to a few notable members, even cares about race, is dumb.

Its more than one or two isolated incidences. A lot of them are just pissed off because white privelege doesn't mean what it used to but there are more than a handful of full on racists at their tax day rallies.

If nothing else, then having them alive to say stupid shit and to discredit them should have some appeal.

Yes there is that.

No, I saw them calling him a Nazi, as well as all the other LEFT wing push buttons. Different strokes for different folks, but it all equates to the same thing.

I think there is a difference between screaming NAZI!!!! and threatening his children and toting guns. Don't you?

The Tea Partiers and right-wing fringe groups are stupid pieces of shit...but so are the left-wing fringe. Let's be honest and admit that, huh?

At the same time I have trouble equating people protesting a war in Iraq (which I believe was the driving force behind all that crap) to people protesting a black Democrat in the White House for stuff that was done before he was inaugurated, or stuff that the Republicans were going to do as well, or stuff that he stated he would do as soon as he took office.

No. The left-wing fringe are intelligent pieces of shit. That's just the difference.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush

Enjoy!

Yep, crazies on both sides but I have the advantage of walking past a lot of these on my lunch break and the teabaggers are worse on a per capita basis.

 

[Shot From Guns]

While the OP is not Glenn Beck, we correctly condemn this sort of speech when it comes from the right and we should condemn it when it comes from the left.

I view this message board as the equivalent of a bunch of people chatting at a party. There's a huge difference from someone at a party saying, "Man, I wish all those retards who think X would drop dead" and a public figure saying the same thing in the national media.

 

[fifty-six]

I feel the term teabagging is being used n a derogatory fashion. It is a wonderful sexual practice that all can enjoy giving and or receiving.

 

[BrainGlutton]

Seriously, wishing death on a large swath of the populace because you disagree with their political views is a stinky thing to do.

And, like many sins, so terribly, terribly tempting . . . *sigh* . . .

Well, I'm sure the Tea Partiers are not immune to said temptation either.

And, FTR, it is a kind of death-wish I have seen expressed openly on both Democratic Underground and Free Republic, but way more often on FR. There's just no comparison.

 

[DigitalC]

Why either? Why not imagine them simply as having a different point of view and seeing if reasoned debate is possible...and compromise?

Cause that would be just as ludicrous.

 

[Damuri Ajashi]

so they call themselves Tea Partiers, and they're blissfully ignorant of the stupid going on in their name.

So they are cognizant enough of tea parties to know they want to be part of it but they haven't seen any of the stuff that seems to be plastered across the papers about the gun toting at Presidential speeches and the racism?

I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it's likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas.

Well shit, when you put it that way. You make it sound like they are usurping the Republican primaries but unable to deliver win in the general elections. OMFG, what if a bunch of liberals in open primary system voted for the tea party candidate in the Republican primary?

Thanks for the laugh. Did you spend the 90's in an alcoholic haze or something? Not a foreigner exactly, no, but a traitor, communist, pervert, even serial murderer, oh my, yes, indeedy. You could look it up.

Yeah but they weren't marching down Constitution Avenue calling him a traitor and a murderer.

Here's the difference, dipshit: the progressives are right.

Conservatives ARE, by objective fact, racist, sexist, homophobic intolerant, ignorant, hateful, vile scum.

They're not vile scum, not all of them.

Just because you are too stupid to understand the reason why the Tea Partiers hate Obama doesn't mean they don't have one.

I thought we went over this. We all understand why they hate Obama. He's a Democrat, he's black and he was actually born in Kenya.

 

[Damuri Ajashi]

Tea Baggers are going to start killing people directly soon if they don't get their way. Their anti-health, anti-progressive, pro-religion, and pro-gun stance have already killed millions indirectly. Wishing Tea Baggers death is self-defense. I'm not at all hateful like they are. I only hate them because they pose a threat to me

Pre-emptive genocide. Cool. Why not wait until they actually start killing people.

Anti-health are reform is incredibly selfish and short sighted but it is not killing people any mroe than you not sending money to Sally Struthers is killing orphans in Africa.

 

[kingbighair]

I think one of the funniest things in the past couple years is when the tea party called themselves teabaggers. Pure gold. I find myself using the term from time to time for a bit of comedic relief.

That said, continually calling them teabaggers does not lead to an honest debate, and comes off as pretty childish.

Or is that the point of this thread?

 

[Rand Rover]

I thought we went over this. We all understand why they hate Obama. He's a Democrat, he's black and he was actually born in Kenya.

That's just all you understand because that's all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.

 

[jsgoddess]

That's just all you understand because that's all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.

October?

 

[EvilTOJ]

I'm partial to calling it the tea farty (warning; immature bathroom humor soundbite).

 

[Shot From Guns]

Sure can, just can't be arsed, not for someone on your level.

And what is my level, pray tell? Please, do keep up these amusing games. (Honestly, does "I have evidence, I just don't have to tell you!" ever work?)

Now go do some homework, as already recommended.

I don't have to--I lived through those years, quite soberly, thank you. And I have plenty of other people in this thread agreeing with me that you're wrong.

 

[pkbites]

This is a thought experiment. Imagine a virus, like ebola, started getting passed among the teabag parties. It was 100% fatal to everyone over the age of 18, but was not contagious, so they did not spread it to other people. So in the period of a couple weeks, all the teabaggers were gone. Wouldn't America be better off?

Some say it would be a bad thing, since there are going to be some doctors and useful people like that among them, but I say this wouldn't be a problem because there would also be less patients, so less need for doctors. The people who are disproportionaly represented in the teabaggers are all useless elements to society: religious idiots, racists, and morons. (I know, I'm repeating myself) If there was some magic way to eliminate the dross from society, that would be a great thing -- wouldn't it?

Imagine if somebody started a similar thread, but instead of teabaggers said blacks or Hispanics. And then went on how, yes a few police officers and useful people like that would be among them, but then there would be less crime and therefor less need for cops.

I wonder how long the Mods would allow such a hateful thread to stay open.

 

[The Facts]

Uh . . . do you actually have some kind of rational reason to make this statement? I mean, is it actually based on anything factual?

You don't watch TV do you?

I notice that nobody trying to say that these scum dying off wouldn't be a good thing.


Off to the lab to develop a virus ... lol (maybe)

 

[Rand Rover]

October?

Er, November. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.

 

[Clothahump]

This is a thought experiment. Imagine a virus, like ebola, started getting passed among the teabag parties. It was 100% fatal to everyone over the age of 18, but was not contagious, so they did not spread it to other people. So in the period of a couple weeks, all the teabaggers were gone. Wouldn't America be better off?

Some say it would be a bad thing, since there are going to be some doctors and useful people like that among them, but I say this wouldn't be a problem because there would also be less patients, so less need for doctors. The people who are disproportionaly represented in the teabaggers are all useless elements to society: religious idiots, racists, and morons. (I know, I'm repeating myself) If there was some magic way to eliminate the dross from society, that would be a great thing -- wouldn't it?

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

I have read some truly ignorant shit here on the Dope, but that took the cake.

 

[Aj]

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

I have read some truly ignorant shit here on the Dope, but that took the cake.

Dude, what's the poor horse got to do with his shit????!!!

 

[ElvisL1ves]

Your level is on display here for everyone to see. It unfortunately consist of a deadly combination of staggering factual ignorance and childish stubbornness.

Now it's your turn to answer a question, one already asked and ignored: Why is it so important to you to insist that the teabaggers are only or even primarily racist, not partisan? You (and a few others) are being awfully silly about that.

 

[Damuri Ajashi]

Or he knows more about what he said than you.

Next.

Or he hasn't gone to a tea party rally.