I'm surprised: Japan's Earthquake/tsunami: No comments?

On 3/12/2011 11:51 PM, Steve Pope wrote:

I'll say my prayers and then some! Hopefully, the potential nuclear
fiasco(s) in Japan can be contained with minimal impact! Talk about
trifectas !! Earthquakes, tsunamis, and nuclear event(s) - er, with
those odds, it's best not to play any lottery!

Sky, who keeps fingers crossed, etc.!

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It's a horrible disaster. We all
know that. I just hope that not too many folks were killed/maimed.I just
keep watching all the images and it's hard
to grasp how big this is. I called my Japanese stepmother to see
how she was taking it, luckily her people are in Tokyo. I got a
perspective on how far the big devastation is from there, it's hard
to get a sense just from looking at a map




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Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:


It must be horrible to live such a hate-filled life.

If you could kill every Japanese person on the planet by pushing a single
button, how much money would you try to extort before you killed them
anyway?

Bob
 
In article , Andy wrote:


Or watching tv 18 hours a day, like you. Nothing wrong with that, if
that's what people want to do, but don't think that you are helping with
the problems in Japan. One lady I talked to yesterday said she prayed.
She didn't know if that helped the folks in Japan any, but it calmed her
down. Here in California, some are getting deluged with calls from
relatives who are concerned. Best advice? Turn off your tv!


Seems like a major catastrophe in Japan to me.


Most of us care, but wringing our hands on a food newsgroup just isn't
very productive, at least in my little opinion.

Some people are actually doing something productive. Frankly, I have
very little to offer, except sympathy. I think that we would be better
off calming our hysteria.

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Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
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On 14/03/2011 12:35 AM, Jean B. wrote:


The Japanese need some immediate help to get through the immediate
effects of the quake, but I imagine that they will soon get to work to
rebuild their country, and will probably do so in a way that will reduce
damage from future quakes. Within weeks of the tsunami in Indonesia the
newly cleared beachfront property was once again covered with crude
dwellings. Haiti...... will likely remain devastated until foreign aid
workers clean up the mess and rebuild housing for the locals. That
country is doomed.
 
Kalmia,

That's Mr. Perfect to you! ;)

Stupid spell checker or probably me!??

Maybe I should think up lunch! Couldn't hurt! Right???

Best,

Andy
 
In article , [email protected] says...

And of course that is the only pump to be had in the entire nation of
Japan. Understand, "the heat" comes from a post shutdown temperature
transient which should mostly have passed by now, not from an ongoing
high-power chain reaction.


Critical mass does not mean what you seem to think it means. Three of
the Fukushima reactors are shut down and cold. It would take an act of
deliberate sabotage to make them melt down at this point. Of the
remaining three, one has a few problems but seems to be cooling down in
an orderly manner, the other two seem to have taken damage but so far
there has not been a containment breach or any reason for anyone other
than alarmists to believe that one is imminent. The coolant pump on one
failed, hence the flooding with sea water, which seems to be working.

As for the other reactors, there are three nearby reactors at the
Onagawa plant that appear to have no problems at all--there was a fire
in the turbine section at one of them but that would have no effect on
the shutdown of the reactor.

Now, with regard to being "much worse than Chernobyl", the controls on
the Chernobyl reactor failed with the reactor operating at very high
power. The Fukushima reactor rods are all the way in so the reactors
are shut down--what remains is to keep them cooled until the temperature
transient passes. The Chernobyl containment was ruptured by a steam
explosion due to a huge spike in thermal power output, more than 30
times the rated power output of any of the reactors at Fukushima. This
has not happened at Fukushima and at this point is exceedingly unlikely
since the rods are in and the chain reaction is halted, unlike Chernobyl
where the rods were almost all the way out. The graphite moderator in
the Chernobyl reactor caught fire and (a) spread massive quantities of
radioactive material and (b) had to be extinguished with further spread
of radioactive material. The Fukushima reactors use water for a
moderator and unless the laws of chemistry have changed since last time
I doused the grille water doesn't burn.

So, this could be worse than Three Mile Island, but saying that it's
going to be worse than Chernobyl is alarmism pure and simple.
 
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:22:49 -0600, Andy wrote:


I think they're watching the news, just like you. For those with
loved ones living in or visiting the area where the disaster hit.
http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/?lang=en JL says there was a
Japanese disaster relief team training here in the SF Bay Area when
the quake hit that was in the air within hours and being flown back to
Japan via US military transport.
Japan is also worrying about a power plant going into nuclear melt
down. A plant in the affected area was on the back up to the back up
system, which runs on batteries and is good only as long as the
batteries have a charge. After that, it goes into nuclear melt down.
I haven't turned on the television yet to find out how that particular
drama is playing out.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
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