I'm not making any more giveaways

I took this decision a long time ago =/

Anyway, as someone else said, sometimes you have to give him some time to improve his ratio. Take a look at the amount he already downloaded and you can have an idea of his intentions.

I remember you were asking for a bitme invite a while ago... Seems to be a nice guy.

Hope you solve your problem soon and that this guy you invited turns out to be a good user.
 
Then please suggest a easier way of handing out invites ? Again you are suggesting that you should not invite just anyone but only the ppl you knw ..
Since you have given an account of your story let me give you an example .. None of the friends (or friends friends etc) even knw what uTorrent is .. Now i have some invites which are simply lying there without being put into use .. So in your opinion i should just keep them there for stats sake right? Cuz god forbid if i give to some needy user that has put up a request for it .. I am breaking a bt commandment ..
All that stuff you said about joining countless forums and kissing countless ass just isn't true. Jeez, there's hundreds of thousands of people who use private bittorrent sites and have never had to do any of that, or wanted to. Usually because those people are happy enough with one or two trackers, but not just because of that. Its more than possible to become a member of sites with any sort of content without invites, there's irc interviews and open signups all over the place; sure the most l33t sites might not operate that way... but then the vast majority of those don't actually have any particularly unique content anyway.
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No there arnt hundreds of thousands of BT users in these pvt trackers .. Most of them have a user limit and i guess you are aware of it .. I havent personally visited any other forum but i can tell you this that a lot of new folks that want to get into trackers do it the Pvt Invite forum way and we all knw what happens there ..
To your other point .. I want to join a tracker that specializes in Ipod format Releases.. Now its not a L33t site (its not any level or watever too) .. It dsnt have open signups nor any IRC interview .. Now what do u expect me to do?
Same is the case with many sites that provide some niche content but wait according to your logic those are all l33t sites ..
I'm on virtually every private tracker I could ever want or have time to use, and have never had to do any of the stuff you describe. A couple of those I was invited to through staff offers in other sites p/u forums, another couple through friends made in simply going about my time on the net without any thought of gaining invites. In fact not even on BT related sites. All the rest I signed up for at some stage when they were open, and none of it was any hassle or effort whatsoever really. Public giveaways on sites like this one have never even remotely played a role, and in all honesty I really doubt they are a gateway for the vast majority of people who use private torrents, but have no idea about or care for the "Bt scene", just want to download some files. A mate, either real-life or online points them towards (or invites them to) a site or two and that's what they happily use ad infinitum without a thought of joining dozens of others.
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I doubt you are the point of reference in every statistic/conclusion that i am trying to draw here so i am really not interested in how you started n what not .. By that logic BMTV,BitME and TT etc were all open signups when they started but are they now?
Besides, how can public giveaways be a gateway if everyone wants "ratio proofs" from established trackers (and expect them to show massive buffers which "normal" people don't create), and expect them to show speedtests with upload rates far above what a normal home connection is (in most parts of the world)? Surely those requirements favour the tiny majority who rent servers and already have access to plenty of trackers?
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Again useless comment .. I have personally got invites based on just my home speed connection which was 512 kbps at that time .. Its just that my machine was on 24/7 so i could seed the entire time .. No one at that time wanted me to show them speed tests for Mbps lines .. So as i said earlier speedtests dont matter (re read my first post slowly this time so that you can find out where exactly i said this) ..

Look i mean no offense to you or anything .. All i want to say is that Public GA are requried .. Everyone needs a starting place and this is it .. Just to give you an example someof ppl who are currently staffing at various sites got their first invites here in public giveaways ..

Apart from that no matter what happens you can never build up trust on the internet .. So the whole Idea of inviting users you trust seems bullshit to me .
 
I can see your point, but I don't think that just because you have invites to a tracker you have to use them. I also reckon there's a mild difference between answering a request and making a GA offer. It depends why you do it, kinda seems to me like a lot of people offer invites expecting to gain something, if just friends and reputation through it. This is especially relevant for invites to sites that don't really need new users, or will only benefit from genuinely good new users rather than just people to increase activity.

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No there arnt hundreds of thousands of BT users in these pvt trackers .. Most of them have a user limit and i guess you are aware of it .. I havent personally visited any other forum but i can tell you this that a lot of new folks that want to get into trackers do it the Pvt Invite forum way and we all knw what happens there ..
To your other point .. I want to join a tracker that specializes in Ipod format Releases.. Now its not a L33t site (its not any level or watever too) .. It dsnt have open signups nor any IRC interview .. Now what do u expect me to do?
Same is the case with many sites that provide some niche content but wait according to your logic those are all l33t sites ..
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Oh yes there are. :p I was meaning across all private sites, not on any individual one. Its impossible to calculate how many due to numerous people using multiple trackers, but there's an awful lot of people using "private" torrents. Many times more than have ever registered at a private invite forum. Imo.

Ok, well again, I don't really have an issue with you making a request for one, ideally on another tracker with a forum section for it. If you make a good case, have been on that site a good amount of time, haven't made numerous requests before and have a decent amount of activity there, and seem like a decent fellow, I might even pm you myself if I could help.

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Look i mean no offense to you or anything .. All i want to say is that Public GA are requried .. Everyone needs a starting place and this is it .. Just to give you an example someof ppl who are currently staffing at various sites got their first invites here in public giveaways ..

Apart from that no matter what happens you can never build up trust on the internet .. So the whole Idea of inviting users you trust seems bullshit to me .
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I guess we misunderstood each other somewhat. My initial point was that spitting invites out like confetti simply on the basis of screenshots and speed tests, and then expecting quality results, is a bit deluded. There are other ways to give yourself a better chance of finding people to invite places who might be good users if that's what you care about, which the OP in the thread obviously did.
 
Thanks everyone for being part of the discussion as you can see, I'm not writing this to complain about what happened, what's done.. is done. and this is a lesson for me, I'll try to contact the tracker's staff to help resolve this. Actually I tried to, but go no response
Most trackers give you a grace period to increase your ratio, not to mention the actual ratio requirements often only come into effect after you've downloaded a certain amount.
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That's what keeping me patient until now
It would be great if you could uninvite some one you invited...
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Like if there was a button, "UnInvite", you know, that can be activated when the invitee has a low-low-low ratio, ah! that would be greate.
Well, everything is pretty simple. If you have invites that doesn't mean that you need to use them. So just invite your friends only or do not invite anybody
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in the meantime, I'll stick to that.. But I know me.. I'll just post a giveaway thread in a week or so, talking about being stupid!
That tends to happen when you do giveaways on sites like this. I almost lost an account on a tracker due to inviting a trader err i invited him from the power user section on norbits.
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I guess I'll just have to learn from my mistakes then.
But alas, with the disadvantages of a public forum, there are always be bad apples in the forum. I would advise forcing applicants to apply in public so members can check on their history, and perhaps asking the mods to check up on them
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That would be the best thing to do in the current circumstances. Thanks again everybody

I remember you were asking for a bitme invite a while ago... Seems to be a nice guy.
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Actually this is what makes me do these giveaways, not being nice of course, but rather that I was in deep need for something and the community was generous enough to grant me my year-old wish, I feel obligated to give something back to the community.
 
The thing is that it was a tad simpler when all this started out .. The invites were always limited but the number of New users joining wasnt this large .. A lot of patterns and mechanisms(so to say) have been constructed/evolved due to this ..
Mostly people give away so much on FST/Any other forum is just so that they can be noticed .. Once noticed they have a chance to get into the next level of the BT hierarchy ,so on so forth. Though everyone thinks that no user should give out invites like confetti ;but they do see the other persons Rep before inviting him to the next level or watever themselves. Somehow Rep translates into trust over the internet which is where this flaw starts .. Once ppl start seeing examples of other ppl getin into Higher level sites due to their Rep they start emaulating the same behavious and this is how we are at this stage now .. anyways its a pattern that has been set since some time and i doubt we would ever be able to change anything .
 
Well in your case, the person at least use the tracker (wrongly). I have given out invites to people who, after registration, never use the tracker. what a waste.
 
apextwin146 said:
The thing is that it was a tad simpler when all this started out .. The invites were always limited but the number of New users joining wasnt this large .. A lot of patterns and mechanisms(so to say) have been constructed/evolved due to this ..
Mostly people give away so much on FST/Any other forum is just so that they can be noticed .. Once noticed they have a chance to get into the next level of the BT hierarchy ,so on so forth. Though everyone thinks that no user should give out invites like confetti ;but they do see the other persons Rep before inviting him to the next level or watever themselves. Somehow Rep translates into trust over the internet which is where this flaw starts .. Once ppl start seeing examples of other ppl getin into Higher level sites due to their Rep they start emaulating the same behavious and this is how we are at this stage now .. anyways its a pattern that has been set since some time and i doubt we would ever be able to change anything .
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Very true. Most invite fora is in this sad state. Well, think about it, might this be the reason why such fora exist? :blink:
 
If you insist in putting your accounts in jeopardy then at least be more careful and picky. Get profile links and match up things like country flags and usernames. As someone else mentioned, get them to write more than 5 words. In an Engrish speaking forum such as this and assuming you are giving an invite to an Engrish based tracker, make sure they have a firm grasp at reading and writing Engrish. If they can't read the rules or FAQs then they are at an immediate disadvantage. These are just recommendations...Nothing can protect you 100%. Friends have even been known to screw friends. Sorry to sound pessimistic, as I am really an optimist.

Consider someone who is a mod here and has a giveaway with lots of requests and 100's of posts. The last time I asked he had only given out like 4 invites. Give or take...

Last but not least, if you can resist the temptation and not perform giveaways then you might consider looking for good candidates via their requests...Good luck with that as well though...
 
MadIrish said:
Why anyone who cares about any site would invite random people simply on the basis of a couple of ratio proofs and a speedtest has always been beyond me.
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in the hope of being noticed and look like an altruistic person.
they're absolutely convinced that it's a passport to "higher heavens".
 
AdrianPhoto said:
Why can't it be that they're just nice people want to help other people
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it's just obvious that they aren't. although they hand out hundreds of invites, they wouldn't invite random bt users to their l33t sites; most of them are more selective and sheming than you might think.
 
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