if you spend $700 on the PS#, you need to re-evaluate your life

I'm waiting till the price drops and the kinks get worked out (an inevitability), but why does it matter what people spend their money on. People blow through that for booze, car parts, betting, etc. It all looks stupid to people who don't have an interest in it.
 
In comparison to other video game consoles it is very overpriced.
Consider, it has been generally accepted that the reason it is priced at $600 is because of the price of the Blu-Ray drive. I accept this. There is no getting around the idea that come Janurary it will be the cheapest way to get a Blu-Ray drive into your living room.

The speculation as I understand it is that if the PS3 shipped with only a DVD-ROM drive it would have been ready to ship last year and it would be priced similar to the xbox 360.

This raises the question, who is going to benefit?
I know I don't. I don't own an HDTV.
Do you?

What percentage of the people that own 360's are playing them on HDTV's?

Out of the total amount of people that buy PS3's in the next year how many will be hooking them up to HDTV's out of the box?

Those are the only people that are going to benefit from Sony's $600 price tag.
 
And that is all it is...speculation. The BD drive costs more than a DVD drive, but it is also Cell, HDMI, Wi-Fi, the memory card slots (too many IMO), 40GB larger laptop (uses 2.5" SATA ) HDD etc. It's a combination of it all. There is a $500 PS3...same HDD size as the 360...$100 more than a 360 but with rechargeable controller, HDMI, free online,and a BD drive...not such a bad deal unless you have $401 to spend.

Truth be told, if you don't have an HDTV, the benefits (graphics res wise) are lost to you, that is for sure. But everything else isn't.

Actually, the ratio of 360 owners with HDTV's are in the 70 something percent range.

I anticipate a similar PS3 range.

But yeah, there will still be millions of PS3's and 360's in a couple years hooked up to a 13" tube through an RF adapter...doesn't mean that the people who don't do it this way have to.

$600 is a lot of money (No one ever mentions the $500 one though it is still a lot) and it isn't a mass market item...until they cut the price...and when it hits the mass market price range, all the same tech will be there.

Don't want it, don't buy it...sounds simple to me. Some people will buy a $30 Timex & others, a $300 Seiko. Some people will spend hundreds on a pair of shoes. Others will shop at Pay-less. Nothing wrong with either...different things for different people. And I'll bet that, when the PS3 drops in price (and it will drop), all the "too much stuff" in it grumbling will cease.

Yes, I will benefit since I do own an HDTV. Something wrong with that?
 
Not a goddamn thing.
All this is just speculation at this point.

My money is for availability of PS3's to be very similar to 360's pre-Christmas. Prices on ebay will be even higher for the PS3 then what they were for the 360.
I think the real hit is going to be the Wii.
Microsoft has every possibility of having a fantastic Christmas. They got the games already on the shelves. If they were smart they would move Oblivian to the $20 or $30 tier before December. There are already some great games at $20.

In the long term we are going to have the Wii and the 360.

Truth is I can't see past the pricepoint. I just can't. $500 for the cheap system is just something I cannot digest.

As far as having all that stuff already in the system. See, my situation is like this. I can afford an HDTV. They have already come down in price enough that I could buy one for Christmas.
I just have no where to put it.

Most people are NOT in my situation. Most people could put one somewhere.
It is like this, if I won one I would be screwed.
I don't see that getting rectified anytime soon.

If I did fix that though. I am not sure what I would think. On the one hand (at the moment) $600 for a blu-ray player AND a videogame console built into one is a steal.
On the other hand I worry that if the PS3 fails then Blu-ray fails.
 
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