ideal kitchen

Pete C. wrote:




It's not at all an oxymoron; if you build more low-density suburbs
than there is demand for, you have overbuilt, and that is what
has happened.


That's absurd.

The typical lot size is 0.1 acre in Berkeley, 0.0625 acre in
San Francisco, and 0.05 acre in Brooklyn. One-acre lots
are not remotely "urban".

And yes, us productive blue-zone urbnaites are propping up the carbon
criminals in the burbs... something you folks should consider before
de-funding Amtrak, as we need it to get to work to support you guys.


Steve
 
i wanted and got no stairs or basement in the house that burnt, best choices
i ever made, and the stuff we lost just is not important enough to replace
most of it, inventorying all of that has really helped adjust my attitude on
what i really need to live, Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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It would be helpful to know the size of the room, how many doors and where
they are. You also want to talk to some cabinet dealers that offer a design
service (free) and you can get a visualization of what you can do.

I've seen kitchens from 6 x 12 to 12 x 24. They have differing needs and
capabilities. A friend had a kitchen with four doors, a layout nightmare
for practicality.
 
sf wrote:



Oour weird kitchen had a very tall, very skinny Sub Zero side-by-side when
we moved in. The thing was a nightmare, and I was so happy when it died
irretrievably and we could replace it. Unfortunately, the over-designed
cabinetry of the kitchen made it incredibly difficult to fit in a new
fridge. We has to dismantle cabinetry and trim in order to eke out an inch
of width, have panels made to cover blank spots, etc.

I got a bottom freezer Amana, which has been pretty good, except that the
crisper draers consistently freese the vegetables, so they are full of
cheese, meat, and things like tortillas and pitas. I'd now like to replace
it with a pull-out bottom freezer below a french door fridge.
 
i invisioned dh putting before dinner crystal on the counter and me
setting/shoving a cast iron skillet into the counter/crystal thinking he had
set it somewhere else,... i wouldn't be careful enough if i could see it,
when you add in don't see it, its a disaster wating to happen, Lee
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Pete C. wrote:


I want stainless because it is easier to clean and yes, because it would
match the cooktop. I want halogen lights because I NEED bright light over
the cooking area, and currently am struggling to make do with a unit that
has a single regular bulb. A regular 36" range hood will not fit over my 36"
cooktop because of the configuration of the cabinets. (Narrower than 36" at
the wall then widens out. I told you this kitchen was weird!) I currently
have a built-in wooden hood with inlaid tiles that I don't like--a fancy
grease catcher--and a 600CFM (IIRC, it may be stronger) fan that is grossly
inadequate. It was the strongest fan I could get that would fit inside the
existing hood when the old one died. I don't know what you consider to be
functionally equivalent to an exterior fan, but I've priced them and the
exterior combo appears to be only a couple hundred more than the equivalent
inside model, and a lot quieter. The noise is important to me.


I have a cooktop with a non-functioning burner and completely rusted out
burner rings and completely rusted out protective thingummies underneath
(replacement parts would cost over $700, not counting the burner), an
inadequate fan that doesn't pull smoke from the front burners, and a wall
oven--my only oven-- that is less than 30" and too small to cook a large
turkey or use my largest roasting pan. I don't think that wanting to replace
those things is a matter of aesthetics. I don't understand why you refuse to
believe this. I am planning to keep the current adequate DW (of which one
rack is actually slightly broken) and fridge (which freezes everything in
the vegetable bins) despite their lack of aesthetic appeal and less than
ideal functionality. Is that enough proof of my devotion to functionality?


But yeah, aesthetics are important. Not only to me, but if we decide to sell
our house at some point, having a nice-looking kitchen will make a hell of a
big difference in how fast it sells and for how much. Right now, the kitchen
is a drag on the house's marketability.


Sounds great. I see it runs a little under $2K.
 
In article , [email protected]
says...

I have a fridge-over-freezer upright and the freezer has pull out
drawers; no chance of cat getting in. Since the fridge is the one I open
most often I *really* like having it at a raised level, the entire
contents visible and not having to stoop.

Janet
 
Storrmmee wrote:

I don't have a final, or even close to final, verdict yet. The
surface is more glossy than the sample suggested, because it has
to be coated with urethane. I had two coats and could, I think,
have gotten more, which probably would have been wise, my
aesthetic preference aside. It does have some slight
irregularities, which look neat but probably pose problems, and
they might have been more filled with the urethane.

It very nice to walk on. Resilient.

I haven't stained it so can't comment. Drips can be dealt with,
so far, with no ill consequences.

The cats... They have not yet met the cork. Now that you mention
it, the interaction of cork and claws may be... interesting. We
shall see.

One big thing I didn't count on for either this floor or my tile
floors... My daughter and I are very careful and don't wear shoes
in the house. However, other people are not careful. So, I
cringe when I hear things being dropped on the tile, and the cork
has some indentations and some scuff marks. I don't know whether
the latter will be taken care of when the floor has another coat
of urethane. Of course, my wood floors are also already
damaged. I am, in fact, pretty mad about all the damage that is
there even before I move in.

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Jean B.
 
On 8/02/2011 11:18 AM, sf wrote:
Nothing wrong with LG
I have a couple of top range lg cell phones , their largest
conventional fridge GR559f a 7.5 kg front load washer and a 60" flat
screen , the telly broke down out of warranty and they still fixed it free
No complaints here


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Steve Pope wrote:

Ah. I, too, do not like the idea of an island. Random thoughts...

My favorite things in the new kitchen are the granite counter tops
and the cork flooring.

Can lights, imo, are hideous. Be sure to get some under-counter
lighting.

Consider special ordering extra shelves and pull-outs for your
cabinets after thinking about where (and if) such would make sense.

Do put ovens at a logical height. I thought I was doing something
really clever having seen it in a display kitchen, and it resulted
in the oven being lower than I wanted it to be.

I would not put a combo microwave and fan above the cooktop. In
the old house, this resulted in condensation dripping down from
the too-low unit. I had that redone.

I hate stoves/ovens next to the refrigerator.

If you are short, TRY not to get the French door refrigerators
that seem to be the majority of those on display now. I finally
got beaten into getting this and have now realize I need to be on
a ladder to get to most of the upper shelves of the fridge. I
don't find getting things out of the freezer drawer any more
pleasant than I thought it would be.

Note... My top of the line GE dishwasher has the tiniest scratch
that is already a tiny bit rusty! I also hate the racks--esp. the
hideous silver rack. My old Bosch still looks brand new and was a
pleasure to stack. (I did not get another one, remembering
service issues. [Check into the authorized service situation
before you get any appliance! As about this on a local email
list, if there is any such thing.]) I am now considering ripping
the old Bosch out of the old house and putting it in the new house!

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Jean B.
 
On 8/02/2011 11:26 AM, Janet wrote:
Hot air rises so take that fact into consideration
bottom freezer uses a pump to cool the top sections thus using more energy

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Cheryl wrote:

My under the cabinet lights have not been installed yet, so I am
not sure what the approach will be. Many such issues have
resulted from people not listening to me. One would think such
things would be easier when the walls are open, and wiring is
being done. But then what do I know?

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Jean B.
 
Steve Pope wrote:

Sub acre lots which are what I indicated, are most certainly urban.


What is there that is "productive" occurring in your precious "blue
zones"? You aren't producing food, tools, clothing, building materials,
fuels, vehicles, or much of anything "productive". If seems your
precious "blue zones" produce such things as mortgage backed securities,
McMansions, and other elements of the economic crisis.
 
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