I use a lot of bandwidth, but am tired of paying...

One, let's all change the if you get caught p2ping to if they get caught p2ping.
Two, the open wifi is a solid good defence which is tried and tested.
Three, it's ok to steal movies and other crap but no bandwidth? (You may not have bought all of it but there sure as shit is a bunch of crap you would have bought if you weren't downloading)

Anyways, this isn't something I would do if my isp cracked down on the ole torrent traffic, I would just switch over to a different method of getting files to my computer. I don't know how US isps work but in the UK you can basically pirate all you want on the cheap package. Also seems like you're gonna spend a shitload trying to save a few bucks.
 
MBM, are you Cambodian, Canadian or American or you're everywhere?

I recognize torrentor as person who sit inside grey area because most reason risen is they wouldn't pay or can't pay for copyrighted stuff and how can we get stuff if no pirates buying it at first place. Still stealing is always stealing. Those company are stealing our money too with their crap stuff.

One more paragraph :lol:. How about the rise of seedbox and hosting company biz to stocked pirated stuff? Isn't it money circulated? How can't those company with their anti-piracy policy monetize P2P with new ways?. And If piracy is never exist, the world will be fulfilled with trash because of consumerism, the poor will always poor, the rich will get richer because of information gap (how can a student learn with 300 bucks software).

Sorry for the Off topic, MBM. Actually filesharingtalk isn't a place of gathering for illegal activity because even RIAA do file-sharing talk too.
Nevermind about those i***** seeker (including me). :lol:
 
The community has spoken, and I am willing to concede that taking large amounts of data via open wireless connections is, as sear eloquently put it, "a dick move".

If, and when, I decide to find an alternate method of receiving my bandwidth, it will not be via wireless connections.

Thanks for all of the feed-back. I actually learned a couple of new things both technical, and about the community's mindset.
 
ca_aok said:
Right, I'm going to be accepting morality lessons from the fellow installing trojans on people's computers for the purposes of his own torrenting
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Hop off your high horse pal, your no better than me nor anyone else on this forum.
 
Right, I'm going to be accepting morality lessons from the fellow installing trojans on people's computers for the purposes of his own torrenting :whistling

Copyright infringement is just that. Infringing or copying a copyrighted material. Theft is theft, with real and direct consequences to the unwitting person you're stealing from.

But hey, if you enjoy thinking I'm a hypocrite for pointing out you're being a total douche here, whatever helps you sleep at night. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it ;)
 
Well, we are all pirates here. So I guess in theory you would think you would had been more supported than what you were with your whole piggy-backing idea. But not only would you be stealing another person's bandwidth, you could also get the person into pretty big trouble for something he/she never did(not to mention the trouble you would get into if caught).

But anyways, if you do decide to get into this whole hacked modem thing then please post back if/when you actually do get one and start using it. This is something I've always been mildly interested in considering my slow speeds, but never really had the balls to try it out.

respawn40 said:
Yup, that's what I'm on and that cap is correct; and my downloading habits have changed as consequence. Well, they've only changed slightly as I've never come close to reaching that cap anyways. :happy:
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I've been thinking that I would probably be happy with Comcast since their speeds are much faster than Verizon(at least their download speed is I know for sure, and that's really all I'm wanting), and plus I'm sure I've never came close to 250GB in one month(even back in my early days where bittorrent was my number one method of obtaining files).
 
I am wondering how ballsy I will ultimately be with the modem. I may keep the full service and do test periods for a while before canceling my subscription, but I already have one of the modems, and another "backup" would be about $50 (if I remember correctly).

The speeds would be FAR superior to my wireless scheme, and it would be cheaper for the equipment cost. Win/Win. I could even feed some orphans, or something...
 
Yup, that's what I'm on and that cap is correct; and my downloading habits have changed as consequence. Well, they've only changed slightly as I've never come close to reaching that cap anyways. :happy:

Funkin' said:
use warez forums?
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When I mentioned that slight change in my downloading habits, I was referring to this. You should definitely try this route. Although having read your first post, it seems to me that you don't have a problem with Comcast's cap, but that you have a problem giving money to Comcast, the ISP leading the charge against BT; in which case this won't be of any help to you.

And I, like Funkin', rarely ever read entire threads here anymore, so I'm not sure if you've made a decision about stealing bandwidth, but I am of the opinion that that is a very dick move, and I can't believe that you even contemplated it.

EDIT: Haha, seems I was a few minutes too slow in posting...
 
respawn40 said:
I am of the opinion that that is a very dick move, and I can't believe that you even contemplated it.
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In part, it is because I have a location that is very unlikely to hurt anyone else. This area does not have the same overage charges that other regions/countries face. My house sits on a hill and overlooks a large part of the city- that means I would have far more open lines available to me than most anyone else who would do this. I actually would not be a "dick" and over-use any one source.

Another key element here is an inherent desire to cut costs. If I could find a satisfactory level of bandwidth for free, why not? I can find many other things to spend the money on.

I'm tempted to play the new dad sympathy card here, but that would be BS. :lol:

I honestly do not believe in supporting businesses that act against things I believe in. Concast is truly an opponent of this community. Why would I support them?

There is a "coolness" factor in researching something technical and building it (hopefully with success). I wanted to see just how much bandwidth I could pull from "the air".

And finally, there is a slippery slope when engaging in illegal activities. Where does one draw the line? It is good to have sensible friends around when one decides to create a new line. The conversations here ultimately changed my direction/actions in this matter.
 
backie said:
One, let's all change the if you get caught p2ping to if they get caught p2ping.
Two, the open wifi is a solid good defence which is tried and tested.
Three, it's ok to steal movies and other crap but no bandwidth? (You may not have bought all of it but there sure as shit is a bunch of crap you would have bought if you weren't downloading)

Anyways, this isn't something I would do if my isp cracked down on the ole torrent traffic, I would just switch over to a different method of getting files to my computer. I don't know how US isps work but in the UK you can basically pirate all you want on the cheap package. Also seems like you're gonna spend a shitload trying to save a few bucks.
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Some good points, backie- pro and con.

One of the main reasons I posted this is the disparity between the users of file sharing who download stuff and the zealous nature of securing their connections. Certainly, open connections should be seen in the same spirit as file-sharing. :D To me, they practically go hand-in-hand.

The costs are less than would be expected. The ultra cheap method would be simply connecting to my 3 neighbors who I can get on the netbook I am using right now.

The next step amounts to a single, directional antenna aimed off the back deck. I have about 120 degrees to play with. Mesh antennas are small and can be had for ~$45. A dish mover (if I am feeling lazy) is another ~$70. A cable attaches to my already owned router for another $35. Total+ $150. About 2 months of current usage fees.

A step higher would include 2 dishes, 2 movers, 2 cables. They would attach to 2 routers going into 2 nic cards (one already on my MB). Windows 7 has built in support for this. However, it would only serve as a redundancy, not a speed doubler.

Concast is one of two options available (second being the phone co.). Concast is the first to impose, and enforce, a monthly cap. I am kinda opposed to this- even if I were not saving money.

Last minute edit- actually, the more 90 year olds who get cut off for "piracy" the better the defense of open-connection becomes! :D
 
That's a shitload to be pawning off on someone else's connection. My monthly cap is a paltry 60GB, I'd be pretty pissed if someone else blew through that.

backie said:
One, let's all change the if you get caught p2ping to if they get caught p2ping.
Two, the open wifi is a solid good defence which is tried and tested.
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That depends on their country, I'm not sure what legal precedence says on that in the States to be honest.

backie said:
Three, it's ok to steal movies and other crap but no bandwidth? (You may not have bought all of it but there sure as shit is a bunch of crap you would have bought if you weren't downloading)
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Uhh, yeah. I've got no problem taking a digital copy I wouldn't have bought anyway from a faceless corporation. Screwing over my next door neighbour for something that has a tangible cost is another story.

megabyteme said:
One of the main reasons I posted this is the disparity between the users of file sharing who download stuff and the zealous nature of securing their connections. Certainly, open connections should be seen in the same spirit as file-sharing. :D To me, they practically go hand-in-hand.
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While this is much less common now that most ISPs turn on WEP when installing a modem, many people with unsecured networks simply don't know how to secure them. You have no way whatsoever of knowing whether they're doing something illegal and trying to create plausible deniability, or if you're stealing money from a little old lady who doesn't know what WEP is.
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Last minute edit- actually, the more 90 year olds who get cut off for "piracy" the better the defense of open-connection becomes!
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So it's fine to put someone else through the legal system to support your own views...
 
If your problem is with Comcast's policies, switch to another ISP, even if it isn't the best option in terms of quality.

It's just a dick move to steal bandwidth from your neighbors, especially if you can afford to pay for your own internet, which is made worse by how much bandwidth you know you're going to use torrenting. It's not like you can't afford the cost or just want to check the news and your email a few times a day.
 
megabyteme said:
I am wondering how ballsy I will ultimately be with the modem. I may keep the full service and do test periods for a while before canceling my subscription, but I already have one of the modems, and another "backup" would be about $50 (if I remember correctly).

The speeds would be FAR superior to my wireless scheme, and it would be cheaper for the equipment cost. Win/Win. I could even feed some orphans, or something...
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do it fo' da chilrrrens, MBM, do it fo' da chilrrrens:P
 
I would not be screwing anyone over. Chances are quite good that people who cannot figure out how to set up WEP are NOT using anywhere near the monthly cap. I would be using their monthly "headroom".

Also, I never use public trackers. I have only received one notice of infringement, and that was like 2 years ago.

I am saying that the general public will get outraged against a system that turns off their grandmothers from using their email.
 
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