I think they should do more adult cartoons.

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With Beowulf a success at the box-office in 2007 and now with Waltz with Bieher, A Scanner Darkly, The Haunted World of El Superbeasto and Waking Life including Final Fantasy The Spirits Within, i think adult animation is having a comeback on the big screen.

Why is it such a maligned subgenre of animation?

I think it works well in a world where cartoons are considered kids and family stuff, Ralph Bakshi and the Japanese broke the rules in the 70's. Some notable mature audiences animation have came over the years such as "Akira", "Fritz The Cat", "Heavy Traffic", "South Park The Movie", "American Pop", "Pink Floyd The Wall", "Ghost in The Shell", "Princess Mononoke", "Fire and Ice", "The Nightmare Before Christmas", "Heavy Metal", "Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend", "Fist of the North Star", "Barefoot Gen", "The Professional: Golgo 13", "Beavis and Butt-Head Do America", "Wizards", "Wicked City", "Vampire Hunter D 1 & 2", "Once Upon a Girl", "Project A-Ko", "Starchaser: Legend of Orin", "Fantastic Planet", "Lightyears", "Hey Good Lookin'" etc.

Now the tradition continues as David Fincher is gonna make an R-rated animated movie based on "The Goon" comic and of course a new Heavy Metal movie from filmakers Guillermo Del Toro, James Cameron, David Fincher, Rob Zombie, Gore Verbinski and Jack Black.
 
I don't mind more cartoons aimed at older audiences in theatres & TV, as long as there good ones, It would'nt hurt to have an "Adult" cartoon that actually has witty & Mature humore & not a bunch of Bowl & sex jokes.

But I think Cartoons should be accessable to all ages, we need more All age cartoons, like there were back in the day.:sweat:
 
I disagree personally. I think that animation is starting to slightly pull away from regular cartoons and move toward adult cartoons and that isn't what animation is all about. It's good to have a few for variety, but I wouldn't want to see too many.
 
"The Japanese"? It's called anime, dude, and there's already plenty of anime that's aimed at older audiences.

And personally, I think that "adult" content in animation is overrated. I can deal with mature oriented content when it's handled properly and as long as it isn't gratuitous, However, the problem is that too many fans mistake "adult" to mean "having as much profanity, nudity, perverse sex and violence as possible". Ironically, anyone who actually believes that having tons of sex, nudity, blood, gore and cursing automatically makes something more mature is usually the exact opposite of mature.
 
I have no problem with adult cartoons. The issue I have with the label "adult" is that far too many people interpret "adult" to be code for "fill it with as much lewd, crude bathroom humor, gratuitous sex, profanity, nudity and violence as possible".

I can't tell you the incredible amount of misguided authors who depict their characters getting raped, murdered, committing suicide, contemplating suicide, getting drunk and/or stoned or creating the beast with 2 backs as a substitute for genuine plot and character development.

The irony to this is that many people who define the above as the mark of a "mature" cartoon are often the exact opposite of mature, and this is reflected in the works themselves.

Like soundmonkey44, I have no problem with adult-oriented fare when it's well-written and executed and isn't just a melange of ethnic slurs, objectifying women, stoner material, sex and bowel movement jokes. That alone doesn't equate maturity. At all.
 
As long as it's "adult" in the sense of, say, "King of the Hill", or something else that has elements that'd appeal to an older-than-college-age/non-drunk or -stoned audience, unlike most of what's on the ironically-named "Adult Swim", I'm for it. But if it's just more tired sex/ethnic/bathroom jokes, I'll pass...

-B.
 
As long as there's cartoons that are made that adults can at least be part of the audience, I'm happy. I mean there's cartoons like The Simpsons, the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Justice League/JLU, and many others that are made for multiple audiences. But I also do enjoy cartoons that are more for adult audiences:South Park, Family Guy, Stripperella, etc. Those are good too.
 
Ninja Scroll is another great adult animated movie i forget to mention! i personally love these kinds of cartoons (mature) ones since i was in high school in the 90's.

What do you think about the other ones i mentioned especially Fritz The Cat, Beowulf or the controversial Japanese animated erotic horror flick Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend? now that is one of my favorite anime movies ever, and what do you think of hentai Blackstarr?

What would make an adult cartoon more "Mature"?
 
I was having an conversation something like this with my father, but the most recent Adult animated film{not for sex or anything with swearing} that was released to the theaters was 9.

I like a few kids cartoons but however some of them are, lets just say some are not that good. But not much adult animation is happening in the US, it is but however its being put onto DVD instead of the big screen. But now that someone mentioned Bakshi I heard he's doing like a sequel to his Wizards film. Dont get me started on Adult swim...I would like to see someone make an horror animated movie...I heard Danny Antonucci was doing something like that. Speaking of the goon, any news on that?
 
So True..alot of "Adult" Humor, is actually less mature then the Humor in some kids shows. "wacky ain't it!"

But yea, I don't think there should be TO MANY Adult US Toons, I mean one or 2 more could'nt hurt if as said they were like King of the Hill or somesuch...But for the most part I think the US should stick to ALL AGES animation.:sweat:
 
Well OriginalGagBonkers, i just got a how-to-write a script book and gonna work on a screenplay for a three-part direct-to-dvd adult animated Sci-fi horror thriller called "Manifest" where it's set in the future as humans are living in society with anthropomorphic alien animal beings of all kinds from different planets (Similar to Alien Nation) as another race among us. The story is about a San Diego human detective who is lonely after his fiancee was killed last year is hired by his anthronoid skunk police chief boss named chief Craven to investigate a small town near the city about a UFO landing including mysterious disappearences and murders that have been happening. Over there he protects a beautiful blonde anthronoid Tigress whom in terms falls in love with him as together to search in the town for bizarre creatures that were infected by a rogue reptilian alien creature from space who plans on doing something diabolical in the city of San Diego as together they must kill every one of those things.
 
You've already made a post about that, which has since been moved to The Story Board. No need to repeat yourself. Also, I fail to see what's mature about inter species romance.
 
Whether or not Beowulf or A Scanner Darkly are actually "animated" is up for debate...

But right now we've got Seth's 3 shows, The Simpsons, The Venture Bros., Superjail!, Metalocalypse, ATHF, South Park, The Boondocks, and Futurama on its way back. I think the bigger thing we could use is more mature animated drama.
 
An animated prime time drama would not be an easy sell. People watch dramas for the acting, and acting is difficult to draw. Most cartoon characters don't do it. They have stock expressions. if you make the show too realistic, people will wonder why you didn't just use live actors. The Polar Express would be a good example of this.
 
Well Blackstar, i'm just explaining it to gagbonkers on my idea. Why are you against interspecies romance? nothing wrong with romancing an alien, mutant or monster, you a humanity supporter who does not believe in evolution?

What about stuff like Wicked City, Heavy Metal or the South Park movie? those are fun and sleazy flicks with cult edge on them. Do you believe that hentai gives anime a bad name and use it as a stereotype on what's wrong with anime?

Beowulf is animated and it rocked.
 
Um...You are aware that aliens, monsters and anthros are all fictional and don't exist in real life, right? Is it even possible for someone to be prejudiced against something that's not real?

I'm not going to debate with you about interspecies romance. I really don't care about that, but attempting to justify a personal fetish by declaring it "edgy" isn't mature. In fact, it's the exact opposite of mature. That's no more mature than throwing in gratuitous violence and profanity.

Perhaps I was mistaken. I thought that this was a discussion about mature content in animation, not about discussing one's personal fetishes. That may have been my fault for not understanding. :shrug:
 
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