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Hi Erie

Honey, I do not think you are in withdrawal, but on opiate overload. You have doubled the intake. From my own expwerience, the more opiates we take and the longer we take them, the worse the weepiness is and the deeper the depression becomes. I am going to say this gently, but firmly... it is time to get off these opiates now or you are headed for deeper and deeper depression.

I know it is scary, I understand the fears. However, I also know exactly where your brain and body are headed on this path. Withdrawal is tough, but no where near as tough as a full blown breakdown. Get back on the taper plan. As much as we care about you here, only you can care about yourself the most. The ball is in your field, Honey. Grab it and run with it.

I will tell you that after a tough beginning, I felt the depression lifting bit by bit as I came off the opiates. My depression lessened as I withdrew; it did not grow. I was in full blown clinical depression when I started and it only got less and less as I progressed in the taper. I wish you well, I wish you strength anmd discipline. Every day of progress is another step toward a full healing. Let's start the healing now... we will all walk beside you.

With hope
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WOW! Good point REACH!!!! Holy smokes, I didn't even think of that. The more I do, the more it makes sense.

Thanks for chiming in!!!!!

Magpie is right too... Your withrawals may not be like others here. Each person is different and I know you can do this!!!!

Give us an update when you can!
 
thanks everyone, what do you mean about opiate overload? do you mean there just not working as much so im feeling the depression? i am feeling the thoughts of how i could do this, all the money,secretes,lies ,shame. So im deg not getting the same high that i got, that would temp hide away all these feelings. I do want to be free and i do have brief moments were i feel not high anymore and i feel(real). But i have been so weepy and want to sleep no energy......but im still takeing 8...is this unusual?
 
Hey again,

I am not going to speak for Reach but how I took it was that you got yourself down to 4 pills a day.. Then you DOUBLED your dose and went to 8 pills. Maybe your body is feeling crummy because it has too much of an opiate in it. The medication in my opinion does a nuraber on ones brain. I couldn't believe the difference it made to come off these pills and stay off of them. Looking back I was in a fog the whole time and just thought that I was high and happy even though I felt trapped. REALLY, I was not thinking clearly.... NOW... I am thinking without the haze so to speak. My head is clear and can deal with hard days a lot better than when I was using or weaning down.

I understand it's scary. I was scared to death but I am so thankful I stopped when I did. I have a second chance now. To me, that is priceless.

I would also suggest that you start weaning down again instead of going up and down, up and down.. That is going to mess with your body and your mind completely. Your body will not be able to feel normal with those changes.

I wish you all the best and I will remain right by your side the whole way.
 
Hi everyone ive been struggling with a taper plan for about 4months now. i was at 8-10 vics, i got all the way down to 4. and for the last month been at about 8 but the weird thing is i feel like i want more and im in withdrawls??? can this be true i dont have the same effect its wearing off very quick??? the good thing is i cant get more so im makeing myself stay at 8 for now. im anxious weepy stomach issues depression is this witdrawls or is the vics no longer working????
 
Hi Erie

what do you mean about opiate overload

Erie, what I mean is that you are just ingesting too much opiate. They are working, but part of the job they do is depressing our body systems and brains. They are depressants and they are doing just that to you. Your stomach is not working the way it should because its functions are depressed. Same with the brain and emotions... opiates bring us down. Use too much and for too long a period and they become very counter-productive.

There is indeed depression caused in withdrawal as we wait for our brain to start producing the chemicals it neeRAB to that we forced it to stop producing then by using the opiates. However, the use of opiates in and of themselves causes depression. And continued use will just cause the depression to deepen. It is not temporary like the depression of withdrawal. It becomes ever increasing the longer and more we use.

Secrets hit the nail on the head in my honest opinion. The opiates are doing a nuraber on your brain and body. I was so tired and exhausted at the end of my use that I could barely function and then finally, I truly could not function at all. That is when I finally got the help I needed to get off the opiates and slowly but surely, the depression ended and my energy returned. My biggest mistake was waiting until I was in a non-functioning state to finally get help.

reach
 
It could be withdrawals. Have you thought of just going it cold turkey? You'd have about 3-4 days of feeling super icky,but then it's over. While it doesn't work for everyone, it does work for alot.
 
To be honest im scared. I know i sound weak but im just scared ive read everyones stories and im scared of the full blown withdrawls. I do believe right now i am in withdrawls it has to be my nerves are the highest they been in 2years .
 
Hey!

I remeraber your story and was just wondering how you were doing. I am sorry to hear of your troubles. To me it does sound like w/d. You got down to 4 then went back up to 8. The meRAB are not going to work as well because after time we build a tolerance.... Since you are not wanting to go the cold turkey way (I don't blame you, it's not for everyone) then I would start to taper again. It's not going to be fun.... My taper sucked BUT.... anything WORTH doing is going to take some work. You have to decide if you are ready for this and then... COMMIT. I say that out of true respect because that is exactly how I had to do it....

Keep posting.. It will help to get some of it off your chest. We are here for you and keep us posted.

Hang in there! You can do this.
 
I wouldn't worry about the withdrawals that everyone else has had. Not everyone has the same sysmptoms to the same extent. Do what you feel you need to do, but chances are that your WD's may not be as bad as others have stated theirs were. Also, if you're already starting to wd then why not stop and go 2 more days of feeling like poo and be done with it?
 
THANK YOU so much for just takeing the time to respond, It means so much and it helps. Im just going to start the taper again, and if the feelings that im haveing now (deppression,anxiety,fatigue,blah)continue i might as well go cold turkey im sure the effects will triple but i have an idea of how it will go down. Its almost like a sign that this is my out...
 
Ive decided just to go right down to 4 aday. I still feel weepy and anxiety is rough i have been takeing some xanax .25 two aday it does help. But so far ive been able to function i dont want to take time out of work so far it keeps me busy, but since ive never been in full blown wd i dont know if ill need to eventually stay home?
 
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