I Just Don't Understand

I know. Ain't it great? Sarcasm. And you call THIS thread drama? Doesn't bother me, quite honestly.
Could have fooled me on the whole "you don't have to like it" part though.
 
True, but if the networks thought that airing the same show constantly would improve the ratings, they'd probably ditch the other shows and focus on the top one.
 
I never said that you were trying to be hateful. I think that you're taking this whole Spongebob is on Nick too much thing a bit too serious, but nothing else.

The only reason why I think that it works with Nick is that kids apparently don't mind having Spongebob on so much. Nick cares what they're target audience think about their shows. When a large enough group of kids around the ages of six to ten or elven tell them that they're tired of Spongebob being on the block so much by not watching it, then Nick will probably give more consideration to chaging how they handle the schedule. Since that's not the case and Nick is still getting some nice good ratings from the repeats, they're going to continue with what they're doing with Spongebob.
 
Well, frankly the formula does work pretty well in terms of broadcasting strategy. I'm not disputing that, even if I don't like the fact that they overkill it in my eyes. At the end of the day, they're making money. Whatever works I guess.
 
But not every viewer shares the same opinion on those shows, so it is up for debate.



Debatable. In the early part of the decade, Nickelodeon's top cartoon was Rugrats. And while Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Oddparents were successful, they weren't at the top of the Nicktoons chart.

So going by that strategy, wouldn't it have been smarter to cancel both Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents to make room for Rugrats at the time?

Again, they need to realize that good ratings are determined by having a substancially big audience, and not whether it equals their top show in the ratings chart.
 
There's always going to be somebody who doesn't like a given series. That argument doesn't hold any water.



Not debatable at all. You see, Rugrats didn't get good enough ratings when shown in marathons. They were Nick's highest-rated show back then, yes, but Nick couldn't get away with Rugrats alone, they needed more shows to go along with it.

Spongebob is a rarity in a sense that it can be shown all over the place and Nick can get away with it. Why fix something that is not broken? It's working for Nick.

Good ratings are determined by the show that is watched the most. That's it. If a show makes the top ratings chart, it means it's watched by the most people.

You know, I can understand that overexposing a series can be annoying, even if you like said series. But you guys need to realize that Nick right now is doing what it's working best for them, and if that means airing the same show all over the place, then so be it.

Finally, Spongebob's ratings will eventually decrease, and even when that happens, it's going to be gradual enough for Nick to come up with a new strategy. Spongebob's ratings aren't going to drop from 7.0 to 1.0 overnight.
 
Because if you wait until your hits are burned out to take chances, then you don't have a successful show to cushion your butt from a financial fall. Whereas if they take chances now, and fail, they have their successful shows to minimize the loss.

And again, if they were to implement their "cancel a show that doesn't equal our hits in ratings" from the beginning, then Rugrats, Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents would have ended before they evolved into the hits that Nick milk.

Danny Phantom, My Life As A Teenage Robot, Wayside. Were they considered failures because their ratings were dangerously at the bottom, or were they considered failures for not being equal in the ratings with Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents?



I'm just saying that if it took a couple or more years for Rugrats (Which again didn't become a hit until Season 3's run was up), Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents to become blockbuster hits, they should be more patience for their other shows.
 
I don't even watch Nickelodeon anymore - it's all about Nicktoons Network. At least that way I can watch shows like The Secret Show and Jimmy Neutron without worry of the invasion of the tween live action.
 
They took a chance by putting Spongebob so many times. It worked. Nick is staying with that strategy for the time being until the inevitable days when the Sponge is no longer profitable. By that time that happens, Nick would have had enough time to test the waters with other series so they can still do well in the ratings in the future.

Marketing 101, folks.
 
Thing is that Spongebob and FOP became a hit because the execs were patient and had humble expectations. Unless they extend that patience to their other shows and lower their expectation, then they won't have any blockbuster hits like SB and FOP for a long time. For that to happen, the current execs would need to develop more of a patience for their new shows, or hopefully any new executives down the line will focus on longterm success rather than looking for a quick fix.

The flaw in Marketing 101 is that SB and FOP would end in three seasons if they were produced today, because again remember that they weren't blockbusters from the beginning. Truth is, the irony of the situation is lost upon executives in general.

I know you think their market method is wise, cautious and well played, but frankly it's the equivilent of an impulsive child who wants his or her newly planted seed to grow into a tall tree overnight and takes it out of the ground for not producing the desired results.
 
I like the little yellow guy and all, but taking up most of the network is a bit overkill. If they love The Mighty B! and FOP so much, then give them some reruns slots in the afternoon, maybe Jimmy Neutron. They've got a whole library of shows that could get decent ratings and take up a 7 of those unnecessary 13 slots. Some diversity never hurt anyone.
 
I definitely appreciate that you answered me fairly instead of biting my head off (as much as I value standing by one's convictions, I freely admit I'm hiding an inner wimp), and you've given me some valuable insight into your intentions, for which I'm very grateful. If I have this right, and feel free to correct me on this, what you seek is recognition for your thoughts and contributions. While seeking acknowledgement can drive many towards achievement and better things, the fact of the matter is that when you're jockeying for attention amongst 1.5 billion online denizens, chances are high that you're not going to attract much of a niche.

I mean look at me. I rarely if ever post anywhere unless some particular topic attracts my attention. Consequently, next to no one knows me around these parts. But I don't really mind that because I don't feel entitled to attention. It's something you earn. I'm a budding writer and aspiring novelist whose already posted a small ton of stuff online and don't really have a following to speak of, because all I'm doing right now is gestating...developing my craft and waiting patiently for the day I can put it to good use.

I was going to suggest that you do something creative and work on a project of your own if recognition is what you seek, but you seem to be well ahead of me there. I noticed your webcomic. Spiky-haired man in trenchcoat wielding a katana and talking about how hard it is to be a hero. ... It's a start! I've come a long way from my own early stories after all. Although if you're interested in larger issues, maybe something like journalism would appeal to you? Throwing ideas around here, but you do seem to have a lot of nervous energy that could be tapped for good purposes.

I mention this, because it doesn't seem you're entirely sure what to do with yourself. 'Don't take what I say seriously?' Sorry friend, but as someone said to me when I tried to pull that excuse, that's the coward's way out. If you can't stand by the things you're saying then it renders whatever discussion you enter utterly pointless. No matter how trivial it is, when you say something others disagree with, you either stick by your guns or admit you were wrong. When you feel the need to blurt out statements you yourself don't even entirely believe in, then it rather strongly indicates that you've rather fatally mistaken recognition for notoriety. It's not the same thing, and you're better than to make that kind of mistake. We're all better than that.

And there you go again with the 'censoring myself' stuff! I don't know how to explain this better. I don't want you to damn well G-rate yourself, I want you to sit back and think about not only the things you're saying, but the things everyone else is saying. This whole hullabaloo started because you took one poster's sarcasm and took it with intense, deadly seriousness. You sound like you feel there's a carnal beast inside you barely chained by pieces of duct-tape. Move beyond the immediate! Step back and look at things! There is no moral majority pinning you down to keep you from tearing them to shreds. There's just you. It's always just you.

...for god's sake, I don't even like Spongebob...
 
So, no one remembers when Nick reran the crud out of Rugrats?



I think what set Spongebob and FOP apart from the rest was that Nick believed more in those series than the other series you named. Avatar is a serial show that (apparently) didn't do so hot when it was reran (Nick still believes in it, strangley) and Danny Phantom apparently cost too much, and there was rumors of backstage shenanigans going on. And I guess growth over the years also set them apart, Teenage Robot IIRC wasn't growing as opposed to, say FOP.
 
I must of been a smart kid because I remember being a bit peeved when I was eight and everytime I watched Rugrats, it was the one where they accidently died Chuckie's hair black.
 
IIRC, it wasn't by accident; As I recall, the story was that Chuckie was tired of always standing out and getting special attention paid to him because of his red hair, so he dyed it black on purpose. Of course, in due time Chuckie grew unhappy with always being ignored, so the status quo was restored by the end of the short.

During the time my kid brother was into Rugrats and it started airing on weekday afternoons/evenings, invariably whenever I would tune in, they'd be running the show with the shorts "King Ten Pin" and "Runaway Angelica".
 
I don't think they would mind more titles on the network either. Sure the ratings justify the excessiveness, but they probably do it because it's simple to put together a schedule of 4-7 shows back to back.
 
Weekend marathons are pretty reasonable compared to say marathons everyday. Their other shows still got some good airtime.



As I said before, while there have been serial cartoons before, they are still rarely done, thus the general non animation fans/casual animation fans aren't use to them.

I mean, there was a time when aside from a couple shows (The Simpsons and Beavis And Butthead), adult comedy animation wasn't so successful. And now Fox has four of them on their channel, plus we have a block dedicated towards it.

Besides, The Spectacular Spider-Man out did the other KidsWB in the ratings department despite it's heavy continuity (Sure, The Batman and Legion Of Super Heroes have continuity, but they also have some standalone episodes as well).

So I'm still in the camp that the general audience just needs some time to get use to some animated serials.

Besides, I don't recall any Spongebob fans objecting to the Countdown To The Comet finale, which again did well. So at the very least they could at least try one complete rerun from the first episode up to the finale.
 
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