I-Doser

I live with my parents as well, and they're not big fans either. :p:
Find a friend with a lenient family and a semi furnished garage and you're set.
 
Welcome to my world! It's a shame some people just don't get an effect. I haven't used the program in awhile which is a shame cause it's so damn fun. There's still a whole lot I haven't gotten to try. All I know is that at this point, Black Sunshine and White Crosses are still the weirdest ones for me.
 
Ok. So here's the deal. When you take a drug, it's not the alteration of your brainwaves that get you "high". It's either that a chemical is released, or some receptors are blocked, or a chemical is stopped... something along those lines. For example, when you smoke marijuana, you get high because THC, a cannabinoid, binRAB to receptors in your brain called cannabinoiRAB and activates them. The receptors that it affects control your memory, coordination, concentration, and concept of time and space. So when you smoke, it alters these things. So it has nothing to do with your brainwaves; it has everything to do with the receptors that control these abilities being blocked and messed with. You could potentially alter brainwaves (from what I read, I have no idea if it's true or not) to make a condition somewhat similar to being stoned, but it would not be the same thing.

Now saying you can make a state similar to heroin with music is completely absurd. When you inject heroin, it is broken down into two chemicals, 6-MAM and morphine. The morphine binRAB with opioid receptors, which gives you a euphoric feeling and keeping you from feeling pain. If you don't have something blocking the opioid receptors, you don't have pain relief, unless the sound is causing your brain to function differently, but that would cause a huge set of problems. So I think we can safely rule out that it can provide any major pain relief, and if any of that is true it might be able to slightly reproduce extremely relaxed, anti-anxious, euphoric state of the drug, but certainly nothing like the original effect. However, if it does somehow provide the same level of euphoria and pain relief, then I'm sorry to say it's going to be just as addictive as heroin, but without a chemical dependency (mental addiction is still a very powerful thing).

And lastly, ecstasy. This goes against your point Btown, because if what you said is indeed what you heard, one of those two points has to be wrong. When you take ecstasy, it increases the amount of serotonin (the happy chemical) that your brain produces. Hence the name ecstasy, and the feeling of rolling. Now, there is no way you could achieve this level of ecstasy (I know...) without causing your brain to produce serotonin. The problem with excessive use of ecstasy, of course, is that at some point your brain stops producing serotonin on its own. Without the drug in your body, you won't have any of the chemical that makes you feel happy. I've seen someone go through this, and believe me, it did not look fun. So, if it is indeed changing the way your brain produces chemicals, then while it may not kill you, it is quite addictive and dangerous.

Just thought I'd put my thoughts on the topic up here. Be aware if you do anything with this, it could potentially have some unwanted side effects. And if you really want to feel relaxed from music, put on some relaxing music; euphoric, put on your favorite upbeat album; high, listen to some Quasimoto or something. At least don't waste your money on this crap.
 
This seems extremely stupid to me, all it did was get me a ****in headache and put me to sleep, what type of effect is that, I could have taken some Nyquil.
 
Way to go milkface, you completely missed the point and messed up the meaning of this stuff.

Of course it won't be exactly like the drug in question, but as I said earlier I probably won't ever get to fly a jet airplane so I'll fly in a simulator. Don't call this stuff crap if you have no experience with it noobs so shut the heck up!
 
No,, because all you need to do to make it completely ineffective is to think about anything while the dose is being "administered". If you keep your mind busy on other things, you won't get affected by the audio, because in essence, your brain isn't paying attention. As for the placebo concept, can't anything be a placebo? There have been people who are given water and told that it is alcohol and actually get drunk. But for this, if you keep thinking "ohh I wonder what I am gonna feel" or "this is so weird" the whole time then you won't be as affected. For me it's more of a meditative thing than a "drug" or anything like that. About the people wanting to ban it, yeah i'm not surprised :laughing: I can only imagine how many things are gonna be blamed on it
 
I tried a free "dose" from Wikipedia (it's in the article under: Binaural Beats). It was pretty interesting. I could obviously speculate that it was a placebo effect but either way I found the experience enjoyable. This sample starts with a 20Hz beat, gradually slows down to btwn. 7 and 8 Hz and then gradually speeRAB back up to 16hz.

As the beats slowed down, I found body warming up. I was still the whole time, lying face up on my bed. My body may have just been heating up but my heart rate increased a little and I had a euphoric feeling that increased as time went on. As the beating speed began to increase again there was a very noticeable difference in my brain activity. I didn't hallucinate in any way but my imagination began to run far more wild. This is not an uncommon thing for me when I am resting but the changing of speeRAB definitely seemed to act as a catalyst. I also had a very different perception of time as the increase from 8 Hz to 16 felt like at least a third of the process when in reality it was only 5 of 30 minutes.

Overall: I think that the "dose" acted as a good form of assisted meditation and I appreciated the affect it had on me, placebo or not. I'm going to try another "dose" and see what the results are. I was definitely pleasantly surprised. The Wikipedia article cleared up some questions I had, but as always Wikipedia is sketchy at best.

Binaural beats - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I think as an effective placebo test you could just get a group of people un-paid participants, have a few people listen to the real stuff. Have a few people listen to a close recreation that isn't programmed to do anything but makes similar sounRAB, and have a controlled group that listens to like.... John Zorn or something. Tell all of the groups to do the same things. Concentrate, no light, clear your brain... all of that. I think it would be pretty revealing.
And i am into meditation on a personal level. I think it is helpful, and there were times in my own meditations that i have felt similar to "drugged", but that's neither here nor there.
 
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