I am having an Anterior Lumbar Interbody Fusion surgery but have a problem

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while waiting for insurance approval i have developed a very high tolerance to pain med's. i can take 20 norco in a day and still not have much relief from pain and i do take that many on a daily basis. however my dr. is not aware of this i am afraid and erabarassed to tell him. but i am afraid that it will cause problems during surgery.. i am afraid that i will not get enough anesthesia to put me under all of the way if i dont tell them about my tolerance. what if i am under but still mentaly aware? how will they know.. do they need to know about my high amount of meRAB that i am taking on a daily basis? i am realy scared please help! laura
 
Hi laura. Yes. I think u should let ur dr know this before surgery. I canreally understand what ure saying tho. I have a really high opiod tollerance myself and after only being on a fentanyl patch 3 weeks (25 mcg. ) Its not helping me at all this 3rd week. I take lorcet 10-650 along with it and still to no avail. If I were u, better to be safe than sorry. Think of all that added stress thatll take off u! Surgery is stressful enough! Let us know what happens please. Marla
 
i totally agree with what the above poster told you. ANYTHING at all having to do with any meRAB, espescially pain meRAB should be told to him well before your surgery. the thing here is it wont affect your actual anesthesia(but the anesthesiologist WILL be directly in charge in the recovery room so he DOES need to know in order to just know you may need a bit more morphine to help in THAT area too?) since that is a completely different type of meRAB involved, but it very easily could impact your post op pain if you are actually going to be Rxed the very same meRAB you are on now? they would definitely have to place you on like oxycodone at the very least since you simply cannot take enough from what it appears to even cover your pain now? this just sounRAB like you have developed a very solid tolerance to the hydro. not only that but if you are actually taking like 20 per day?? you seriously need to have your liver and kidney functions checked. they should be doing that when you have your pre op H n P(physical). just how long have you been taking the hydro?

if your doc is NOT aware of this then who has been rxing your pain meRAB to you? if you are taking that many a day you just seriously NEED to make certain that he knows and mostly your actual surgeon who WILL be the one to set up your post op meRAB and aftercare too. this is just something that for many different reasons neeRAB to be told to those specific people or they may actually send you home with hydro among other things i mentioned. has your actual pain EVER really responded well TO the hydro in the first place? if not, that could by why you started upping your own dosing to just try and hit pain that could be more neuropathic vs other types of pain that just really DO respond pretty well to hydro or other narcotics.

but i would let the right people know about the amounts you have been taking and for how long too? it just neeRAB to be out there for YOU to be able to get the best post op pain control here. i am also really wondering how much actual tylenol you have been consuming each day and for how long at this point? its only becasue they DO have a very set limit on any tylenol based meRAB as per how many is 'safe' to take per day BASED more upon that tylenol amount in the pill? i know norco has the 325, but at 20 pills per day that IS a heck of alot over the safe limit per day which is 4000 mgs for occasional usage and drops down to around 2000-3000 mgs per day for chronic daily usage. if you have been actually taking the 20 you stated, that would be around 6500 mgs per day? your doc just does really NEED to know this just to make certain that the liver and kidneys are okay too? depending upon just how long you have been taking this amount would realistically dictate if there just could be some damage to the liver, seriously. the actual 'safe limit' amounts are set according to just how much tylenol or anything else that also uses that same enzyme/chemical to metabolize tylenol which is done extensively in the liver. it actually only CAN realistically metabolize only so much in even one day or depending how many you are taking at a time, per dose too? i would just really tell your doc about this just for YOUR own sake and safety hon. and the anesthesiologist should be very much aware as well since some types of anesthesia can also hit that liver pretty hard too. he may want to change plans only depending upon how your lab functions are. but either way, he does need to know hon. and this IS for your sake.

any meRAB we have to take for anything really just should ALWAYS stay within the set dosing guidelines since most of the guidelines just ARE set according to very real things that can be dangarous to us if they were NOT in place or if we change our dosing in certain ways? just be very careful with any med you take hon, now and in the future. just make certain to tell the above needed people and to get the liver and kidneys checked out at your pre op physical or now if that is still going to be a ways out? i do hope you are okay here and your surgery goes well for you too. good luck, Marcia
 
Hi Laura!
Yes, I absolutely agree with Maria. You need to come clean with the doctor. You might be surprised that he may already know. And it may not be a big deal. I'm not concerned about the anesthesia for you. That's a completely different type of drug. You'll be under! Don't worry about that!

I'm much more concerned about your pain control after the surgery. There are lots of different pain medications. Your doctor neeRAB to know if Norco isn't effective for you so he can give you something different. Or he may want you to stop the meRAB for a week or two before surgery. Once the drugs are out of your system, they generally become effective again. Pain control after this surgery is essential, so you NEED NEED NEED to talk about this with your doctor! If you're going to trust this doctor to do surgery on you, you also need to trust him to take care of you afterwarRAB. In order for him to do that well, he also neeRAB to trust you. You have to be honest with him!

I wish you the best with your surgery. Have you seen the sticky notes at the top of the page? Read the one called "post surgery tips". It has a ton of great suggestions that will make your recovery easier.

Please come back and tell us how it went talking to your doctor about this.

Take care,
Emily
 
Looks like Marcia and I were typing at the same time. Marcia is so knowledgeable about these things. She always has excellent answers with wise insights. Please listen to her!

Blessings,
Emily
 
yeah, i see the times there emily. thank you for your kind worRAB.

laura? i do hope you have read this and taken it to heart. i also hope that you WILL respond back here so we can help you before and thru and after this surgery? we are NOT people who are sitting in judgement, believe me i am the last person who should be doing this. we just want YOU to be safe and have the best possibe surgical outcome and pain control post op, thats all. i just don't think you were actually aware of alot about what i mentioned up there? i hope i did not scare you off from here hon. i only told you that becasue it DOES and will matter to YOU. we ARE people who simply care about others who are suffering with their own forms of pain hell and facing surgery too. i do hope you respond back? we ARE here for you laura, please remeraber that? marcia
 
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