HTC TyTN or iPhone

htc tytn is 3g thats a major pro for me
also the fact that iphone got onboard battery...
fact that iphone dont have memory card....
fact that iphone cant record video....
fact that iphone cant send mms...
do you need more ?

PS tytn is ugly.. but i stil want to get one
 
iPhone has a beautiful HVGA screen and is practically a fashion accessory when it comes to design but it is not nearly as capable as PPC phones.

Here's my previous summary of the iPhone's shortcomings from a business user's perspective:

Pros (just so you don't think I'm too biased):
- Design is fantastic and way cool
- User interface is cool and simple and fun
- Screen resolution (320x480, 1/2 or HVGA) is very good, especially given the death of VGA on PocketPCs and the QVGA CDMA smartphones (nice VGA screens coming on i-Mate Ultimate line of GSM phones)

Cons:
- Poor ATT network coverage for calls (maybe not true, definitely not as bad as it used to be in my area).
- ATT?s slower data network (EDGE not HSPDA, also poor coverage?)
- Doesn?t sync out of the box with corporate Exchange email servers but supposedly will eventually (3rd party corporate solution available)
- Doesn?t edit Word documents or Excel and can't view PowerPoint files or even save email attachments
- Only an onscreen keyboard, very slow to use, won't yet work with BT keyboard
- Poor BT compatibility (no tethering, A2DP, OBEX)
- No user replaceable battery so cannot use extra batteries or high capacity battery for longer life charges
- For me this is a much bigger downside to the sealed battery (I had 4 batteries for my Axim) than all the fuss about needing to have it eventually replaced by Apple
- Browser interface is very cool but on some websites it may require lots of sideways scrolling and page resizing (vs QVGA single column view, which is very legible & simple to use)
- No memory card (4 or 8 GBs is probably enough for most people for music, pics & videos, but some of us like to carry around huge data files and PowerPoint presentations for work)
- Lack of 3rd party app potential
- Can't double as a modem for laptop
- No find feature
- No cut & paste
- No voice dialing
- Only syncs with one computer
- No Flash or Java

I don't want to exaggerate the number of these weaknesses, clearly this was not designed for business users. I have to say that in my 2-week trial of the iPhone I found the network to be much improved in my area but EDGE is not cutting edge, it's just too slow.

With a few other improvements to the iPhone, I would learn to live with some of the other weaknesses and just resolve to using my laptop more.
 
I think that says it all...but if you're still torn between the 2, the TyTn II is coming out soon and it looks SWEET!!! phonearena.com has a review up i believe.
 
If you like your TyTn then stick with it. If you really want to upgrade your phone I would consider the TyTN 2.

Just to give you an idea. I never had a PDA/Smart phone. I went out and bought the iPhone. I had it for once week and I had issues so I returned it for the AT&T 8525. Robrecht did a good job on comparing the two phones so I?m going to go into too much details.

The iPhone is a nice phone but not worth the price tag. There?s going to be issues with the iPhone since its first gen. The cool factor wore off kinda fast for me. I love the UI since it?s so easy to use and the Safari browser is very nice. But the features on the TyTN (8525) make it the best bang for your buck phone. If you have money to blow then get the iPhone. If you want a work horse stick with your TyTN or get the TyTN 2 when it comes out.
 
The Kaiser is at least $800 unless you can get it on AT&T contract. Oh yeah, plus $20 more per month for the data plan. So even if you can get the Kaiser at a discount w/contract it's going to cost you significantly more over two years than the iPhone will. Same for TyTn. $480 more over two years. Ouch.

Bottom line is if you really need the features of the Kaiser that the iPhone doesn't have then don't get the iPhone. Otherwise get the iPhone.
 
All the above have either been solved or will be solved soon. Third party apps. for example are already a reality (and for the average user, not hackers). Flash is coming. You can sync iTunes with multiple computers. etc.

As far as some of the other criticisms:

- Keyboard being slower. The vast majority of people who use the iPhone for more than a week or two say it is faster than hard keyboards. I can certainly type fast enough.

- I'm not sure why you are criticizing the scrolling of the browser. Any other phone is certainly going to be much much worse in that regard for real web pages.
 
Who are the "vast majority" you have been talking to??? 90% of all opinons i've read and all 8 of the people i know who bought it on day find it very clumbersome compared to a regular QWERTY keyboard and of the 10% that like it, most are used to numeric keypads so have no good comparison...Also it cannot be as fast since you can only type in portriat mode(except in browser which is stupid they shouldve made it work everywhere) it's very crampped to type with two hands...or even one

Do you even own an iphone? if not you really shouldnt tell someone to get it. It's a nice phone, yes. But the only things that it excells at are it's UI and great screen(both size and quality). Outside of that it kinda sucks...metal casing is easily marked, lacks simple features like video rec(only phone in the past 2+ yrs that doesnt have it) and cut & paste(yes they should be easy fixes but there have already been several patches released and none address any of these issues, you are assuming that Apple will CHOOSE to fix these...they dont have to and i'ld advice waiting until they do for sure before purchasing as it really if they were gonna take the time to fix such minor issues they could have put them in before the release...) lack of stereo bluetooth is not a big deal but it's something that comes standard on low-end models nowadays...btw check the avalible memory...its -1GB of whichever model you bought. This is because the manufacturing process is never perfect so it's always short approx 5-15%(all types of memory) and on top of that the OS takes up 700MB of YOUR memory capacity! This leaves you with 3 or 7GB only...and no option to expand.

The only 3rd party apps that can run on it are very simple programs as they are limited to java based programs that must run IN the safari browser...so its not really a big advantage...the iphone also cannot edit any word or excel doc. it can only view them...
 
I do expect most of the weaknesses of the iPhone to be eventually addressed and when enough of them are effectively addressed I will happily buy one again.

My 2-weeks' experience with the iPhone's keyboard did allow me to get faster but no where near as fast as I am with a dedicated keyboard. Most of the time I have used graffiti and have little experience with a hard keyboard, but even with very little experience, I am much much faster with the hard keyboard on the Mogul. Part of the issue is the diffiulty moving the cursor around with the iPhone. The iPhone keyboard is easier in landscape mode, but unfortunately landscape mode is not yet possible for email and notes. I also like being able to see more of the text on the screen while I'm composing.

With respect to my criticism of sideways scrolling with the Safari browser, this only applies to some websites where the double-tap view of Safari yields text which is still too small to read thereby requiring zooming in further. But this is not required with other browsers. If you're familiar with WM and the basic PIE browser, you only need to choose the single column default view to see what I mean. You will not need to resize every page you go to, rather each page will automatically be legible without any sideways scrolling. I really like the HVGA screen on the iPhone but the screen is just not large enough for full webpage rendering to be user friendly when it comes to text.

For the benefit of all of us, why not link to the solutions available or in the works for the items you focused on:

- Lack of 3rd party app potential (not talking about Internet apps)
- Can't double as a modem for laptop
- No find feature
- No cut & paste
- Only syncs with one computer (I'm not merely talking about iTunes here)
- No Flash
 
For better speed and a better phone, I'll take it! Oh yeah, and the iPhone's service plans are $20 more than a "regular" plan. Savings = 0. AT&T and Apple really fooled you, eh?

OP: These are 2 completely different phones. Buy whichever you want. You likely won't use half the features the TyTn/TyTn II have. Your avatar and sig seem to show you already made up your mind. There are pros and cons of both devices all over this forum and all over the internet. This seems more like a flamebaiting thread than anything.
 
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